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тАО01-23-2025 01:58 AM - last edited on тАО02-06-2025 07:23 PM by support_s
тАО01-23-2025 01:58 AM - last edited on тАО02-06-2025 07:23 PM by support_s
Hi,
We have an old system:
ia64 hp Integrity BL870c i4 .
HP-UX DB3 B.11.31 U ia64 ---- unlimited-user license
the storage structure was as follow:
RAID 01 with 10 HDD 600GB each and spare HDD with extra another HDD for later use.
the saconfig result was :
****-DB3#saconfig /dev/ciss1
******************** SmartArray RAID Controller /dev/ciss1 ********************
Auto-Fail Missing Disks at Boot = enabled
Cache Configuration Status = cache enabled
Cache Ratio = 25% Read / 75% Write
---------- PHYSICAL DRIVES ----------
Location Ct Enc Bay WWID Size Status
External 41 1 1 0x5000c5005832dc89 600.1 GB OK
External 41 1 2 0x5000c5005832ea66 600.1 GB OK
External 41 1 3 0x5000c50058329abd 600.1 GB OK
External 41 1 4 0x5000c5005832a25e 600.1 GB OK
External 41 1 5 0x5000c5005832dba9 600.1 GB OK
External 41 1 6 0x5000c5005832f986 600.1 GB OK
External 41 1 7 0x5000c5005832eea1 600.1 GB OK
External 41 1 8 0x5000c50058328056 600.1 GB OK
External 41 1 9 0x5000c5005832ed49 600.1 GB OK
External 41 1 10 0x5000c5005832db4e 600.1 GB OK
External 41 1 11 0x5000c5005832af7d 600.1 GB SPARE
External 41 1 12 0x5000c50058328416 600.1 GB UNASSIGNED
---------- LOGICAL DRIVE 0 ----------
Device File = /dev/dsk/c4t0d0
RAID Level = 1+0
Size = 2560000 MB
Stripe Size = 128 KB
Status = OK
Participating Physical Drive(s):
Ct Enc Bay WWID
41 1 1 0x5000c5005832dc89
41 1 2 0x5000c5005832ea66
41 1 3 0x5000c50058329abd
41 1 4 0x5000c5005832a25e
41 1 5 0x5000c5005832dba9
41 1 6 0x5000c5005832f986
41 1 7 0x5000c5005832eea1
41 1 8 0x5000c50058328056
41 1 9 0x5000c5005832ed49
41 1 10 0x5000c5005832db4e
Participating Spare Drive(s):
Ct Enc Bay WWID
41 1 11 0x5000c5005832af7d
we had also a volume group vgora built on this disk
VG Name /dev/vgora
VG Write Access read/write
VG Status available
Max LV 255
Cur LV 3
Open LV 3
Max PV 12
Cur PV 1
Act PV 1
Max PE per PV 33276
VGDA 2
PE Size (Mbytes) 64
Total PE 32767
Alloc PE 32738
Free PE 29
Total PVG 0
Total Spare PVs 0
Total Spare PVs in use 0
VG Version 1.0
VG Max Size 24957g
VG Max Extents 399312
--- Logical volumes ---
LV Name /dev/vgora/lvol1
LV Status available/syncd
LV Size (Mbytes) 60032
Current LE 938
Allocated PE 938
Used PV 1
LV Name /dev/vgora/lvol2
LV Status available/syncd
LV Size (Mbytes) 1766400
Current LE 27600
Allocated PE 27600
Used PV 1
LV Name /dev/vgora/lvol3
LV Status available/syncd
LV Size (Mbytes) 268800
Current LE 4200
Allocated PE 4200
Used PV 1
--- Physical volumes ---
PV Name /dev/disk/disk4
PV Status available
Total PE 32767
Free PE 29
Autoswitch On
Proactive Polling On
i ignored the result related to vg00
because we want to expand the lvol2 which is for /database
we added the spare and the UNASSIENED drive to the array
****-DB3#saconfig /dev/ciss1
******************** SmartArray RAID Controller /dev/ciss1 ********************
Auto-Fail Missing Disks at Boot = enabled
Cache Configuration Status = cache enabled
Cache Ratio = 25% Read / 75% Write
---------- PHYSICAL DRIVES ----------
Location Ct Enc Bay WWID Size Status
External 41 1 1 0x5000c5005832dc89 600.1 GB OK
External 41 1 2 0x5000c5005832ea66 600.1 GB OK
External 41 1 3 0x5000c50058329abd 600.1 GB OK
External 41 1 4 0x5000c5005832a25e 600.1 GB OK
External 41 1 5 0x5000c5005832dba9 600.1 GB OK
External 41 1 6 0x5000c5005832f986 600.1 GB OK
External 41 1 7 0x5000c5005832eea1 600.1 GB OK
External 41 1 8 0x5000c50058328056 600.1 GB OK
External 41 1 9 0x5000c5005832ed49 600.1 GB OK
External 41 1 10 0x5000c5005832db4e 600.1 GB OK
External 41 1 11 0x5000c5005832af7d 600.1 GB OK
External 41 1 12 0x5000c50058328416 600.1 GB OK
---------- LOGICAL DRIVE 0 ----------
Device File = /dev/dsk/c4t0d0
RAID Level = 1+0
Size = 3072000 MB
Stripe Size = 128 KB
Status = OK
Participating Physical Drive(s):
Ct Enc Bay WWID
41 1 1 0x5000c5005832dc89
41 1 2 0x5000c5005832ea66
41 1 3 0x5000c50058329abd
41 1 4 0x5000c5005832a25e
41 1 5 0x5000c5005832dba9
41 1 6 0x5000c5005832f986
41 1 7 0x5000c5005832eea1
41 1 8 0x5000c50058328056
41 1 9 0x5000c5005832ed49
41 1 10 0x5000c5005832db4e
41 1 11 0x5000c5005832af7d
41 1 12 0x5000c50058328416
Participating Spare Drive(s):
None
but to be noted we have used the free PE before the expansion of the RAID drive
which was:
--- Physical volumes ---
PV Name /dev/disk/disk4
PV Status available
Total PE 32767
Free PE 2681
Autoswitch On
Proactive Polling On
now the problem is the:
we see that we have 3TB on disk4 , note that i cannot diskinfo /dev/disk/disk4, it says "Character device required " so i used rdisk/disk4
****-DB3#diskinfo /dev/rdisk/disk4
SCSI describe of /dev/rdisk/disk4:
vendor: HP
product id: LOGICAL VOLUME
type: direct access
size: 3145728000 Kbytes
bytes per sector: 512
but the vgdisplay says:
****-DB3#vgdisplay vgora
--- Volume groups ---
VG Name /dev/vgora
VG Write Access read/write
VG Status available
Max LV 255
Cur LV 3
Open LV 3
Max PV 6
Cur PV 1
Act PV 1
Max PE per PV 64000
VGDA 2
PE Size (Mbytes) 64
Total PE 32767
Alloc PE 32740
Free PE 27
Total PVG 1
Total Spare PVs 0
Total Spare PVs in use 0
VG Version 1.0
VG Max Size 24000g
VG Max Extents 384000
that means: we have total of 32767 PE with 64MB which means a total of 2097088MB which is about 2TB while we have 3TB as "describe of /dev/rdisk/disk4:"
I tried many commands like ioscan, insf, vgreduce, but i stuck here.
sometimes i face that this device is character and this device is a block. and i dont know what to do.
in short: we cannot reflect the expansion of RAID drive to be aware by the volume group.
please help
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тАО01-27-2025 08:39 PM
тАО01-27-2025 08:39 PM
SolutionHello Yurub,
You need to use the command "vgmodify" to use the added to the disk, by adding new disks to the logical drive .
When a LUN is dynamically grown (DLE - Dynamic Lun Expansion - at the storage end , here at RAID) , vgmodify should be used to allow LVM to access this new space.
Once the volume group has been adjusted by vgmodify the new space can be allocated using the normal LVM method by lvextend or lvcreate.
You may need to use the command # vgmodify -v -r -a -E vg_name --> review mode , make sure that it is showing new disk size in output .
Now run without -r to make actual changes .
You may refer the White paper "Using the vgmodify command to perform LVM Volume Group Dynamic LUN Expansion (DLE) and Contraction (DLC)" from URL given below for more informaiton .
Section "Dynamic LUN expansion (DLE) and dynamic LUN contraction (DLC)" , page #6 onwards .
https://community.hpe.com/hpeb/attachments/hpeb/itrc-156/377793/1/356848.pdf
Please make sure you have good data backup before making any changes .
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тАО01-29-2025 03:36 AM
тАО01-29-2025 03:36 AM
Query: Expand logical volume
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тАО02-03-2025 01:23 AM
тАО02-03-2025 01:23 AM
Re: Query: Expand logical volume
unfortunately it did not work
****-DB3#vgmodify -v -r -a -E vgora
Volume Group configuration for /dev/vgora has been saved in /etc/lvmconf/vgora.conf
An update to the Volume Group is NOT required
Review complete. Volume group not modified
i also cannot tverify the size of /dev/disk/disk4
****-DB3#diskinfo /dev/disk/disk4
diskinfo: Character device required
but i can see the /dev/rdisk/disk4
****-DB3#diskinfo /dev/rdisk/disk4
SCSI describe of /dev/rdisk/disk4:
vendor: HP
product id: LOGICAL VOLUME
type: direct access
size: 3145728000 Kbytes
bytes per sector: 512
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тАО02-03-2025 10:43 AM
тАО02-03-2025 10:43 AM
Re: Query: Expand logical volume
Hello Yurub,
I had a look at the configuration of the vg and it seems it is hitting a limit "Max PV Size (Tbytes)" of 2TB for vg with version 1 .
You could check the limits of different vg versions using # lvmadm -t . Below are the limits for vg version 1.0 which you have .
# lvmadm -t
--- LVM Limits ---
VG Version 1.0
Max VG Size (Tbytes) 510
Max LV Size (Tbytes) 16
Max PV Size (Tbytes) 2 =====>
Max VGs 256
Max LVs 255
Max PVs 255
Max Mirrors 2
Max Stripes 255
Max Stripe Size (Kbytes) 32768
Max LXs per LV 65535
Max PXs per PV 65535
Max Extent Size (Mbytes) 256
As per the table , the max size a disk can have is 2 TB .
The initial size of the disk (before adding new disks) was 2560000MB = 2500GB , which itself was above the limit .
After adding those 2 disks , the new size is 3072000 , ~3000GB which cannot be used in vg with version 1.0 .
****-DB3#vgdisplay vgora
--- Volume groups ---
VG Name /dev/vgora
VG Write Access read/write
VG Status available
Max LV 255
Cur LV 3
Open LV 3
Max PV 6
Cur PV 1
Act PV 1
...
Total PVG 1
Total Spare PVs 0
Total Spare PVs in use 0
VG Version 1.0 ==>
You have 2 options available ,
1)migrate the vg version from 1.0 to 2.x which will accommodate disks with higher size up to 16 TB , use the new size with help of vgmodify as shared earlier or 2) take data backup , recreate the array in such a way that there would be multiple logical volumes with size less than 2 tb so that all of these disks together can use be used make vg with version 1.0 and use all of the space .
You may refer #man vgversion for more information also make sure you have a good data backup before making any changes.
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тАО02-03-2025 11:28 PM
тАО02-03-2025 11:28 PM
Re: Query: Expand logical volume
how can I migrate to version 2.0, i cannot find command vgconvert
while searching on google i found that it should be installed with patches earlier than 2008, I have this boundle but I dont have vgconvert!!
FEATURE11i B.11.31.1403.401a Feature Enablement Patches for HP-UX 11i v3, March 2014
Please help
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тАО02-04-2025 01:40 AM
тАО02-04-2025 01:40 AM
Re: Query: Expand logical volume
Hello Yurub,
The command is vgversion , which will help you migrate vg with version 1.0 to 2.x . There are multiple versions available such as 2.0 / 2.1 and 2.2 .
For example ,
Change the version of a volume group named /dev/vg01 to volume group
version 2.2 and be verbose:
vgversion -v -V 2.2 /dev/vg01
Please refer # man vgversion for more details / steps . also refer #lanadm -t for limits of each version .
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тАО02-04-2025 02:02 PM
тАО02-04-2025 02:02 PM
Re: Query: Expand logical volume
Many Thanks
****-DB3#vgdisplay vgora
--- Volume groups ---
VG Name /dev/vgora
VG Write Access read/write
VG Status available
Max LV 2047
Cur LV 3
Open LV 3
Cur Snapshot LV 0
Max PV 2048
Cur PV 1
Act PV 1
Max PE per PV 262144
VGDA 2
PE Size (Mbytes) 64
Unshare unit size (Kbytes) 1024
Total PE 47999
Alloc PE 40138
Current pre-allocated PE 0
Free PE 7861
Total PVG 1
Total Spare PVs 0
Total Spare PVs in use 0
VG Version 2.2
VG Max Size 24000g
VG Max Extents 384000
Cur Snapshot Capacity 0p
Max Snapshot Capacity 24000g
i have expanded some volumes and still have about 500GB for future use.
thank you
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тАО02-04-2025 02:57 PM
тАО02-04-2025 02:57 PM
Re: Query: Expand logical volume
thank you again
but i wonder, if I have 12 disks with 600GB on RAID 10, why I have 3TB not 3.6TB.
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тАО02-05-2025 10:06 AM
тАО02-05-2025 10:06 AM
Re: Query: Expand logical volume
Hello Yurub,
It seems like 50 gb is taken from each disk for raid - could be for parity writing , thus not available for user .
The size mentioned when the RAID has 10 disks was 2560000 MB .
Ideally, the size should be 600 (disk size) * 10 (no of disks) * 1024 (in MB) / 2 (since it is RAID10 - mirroring) = 3072000.
But the size available is 2560000 as shown below .
---------- LOGICAL DRIVE 0 ----------
Device File = /dev/dsk/c4t0d0
RAID Level = 1+0
Size = 2560000 MB ==>
Stripe Size = 128 KB
Status = OK
Thus we have almost 512000 MB (3072000 - 2560000)which is ~ 500GB missing when you have RAID with 10 disks configured .
So for a single disk it is 50gb (500gb/10 disks) non-usable for data writing .
When you added 2 new disks , the ideal size should be 600 * 12 * 1024 /2 = 3686400 MB ~ 3600GB .
But the current size is 3072000 MB .
---------- LOGICAL DRIVE 0 ----------
Device File = /dev/dsk/c4t0d0
RAID Level = 1+0
Size = 3072000 MB ==>
Stripe Size = 128 KB
Status = OK
So the missing size is again 3686400 - 3072000 = 614400 MB , ~ 600gb .
Which is nothing but addition of 100gb tp previous missing size (500gb) , 50 gb from each disk , thus 100gb for 2 new disks .
Hope this explains .
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