How to boot an HPUX server from a Linux server?

[kaidi]

Hello,
I want to install an HPUX server from a Linux laptop : the server had to boot on the laptop which answers as an ignite server (but it's a linux server).I configured BOOTP DHCP and TFTP protocols but I got problems with TFTP (I got error messages)
So I don't know if there is an ignite software developped to be installed on a Linux server, to install an HPUX server.

Thanks.

[U.SivaKumar_2]

Hi,
What is the error tftp server is giving ?

regards,
U.SivaKumar

[Pete Randall]

To the best of my knowledge, there is no Linux version of Ignite.

Pete

[Clemens van Everdingen]

Hi,

There is no Ignite for LINUX.
This is a hp-ux product only !

C.

[harry d brown jr]

This is one way for a linux machine to boot an HPux machine:

telnet hpuxmachine
shutdown -r -y 0

or

rsh hpuxmachine shutdown -r -y 0

Now, if you want to INSTALL an HPux machine from a linux machine you are basically SOL. Though a cute idea it just doesn't make practical sense.

If you want PORTABILITY, get yourself an external DVD/CDROM drive.

live free or die
harry

[Shannon Petry]

There are several problems with booting to install HP-UX from linux.
First Linux is not HP-UX.
Second. HP-UX requires PA-RISC compiled binaries and an install requires you to boot the kernel. This is pretty complex code and not just simply a matter of booting with TFTP and BOOTP/DHCP.
The boot from LAN process requires a remote kernel with enough instructions to do basic tasks to begin the load as well as knowledge of system devices, etc...

Since Ignite, HP-UX, nor the required SW tools exist for Linux, I think your gonna have to do a local install.

Regards,
Shannon

[kaidi]

Hello,
I want to install an HPUX server from a Linux laptop under Linux: the server had to boot on the laptop which answers as a Linux server.
So, I want to install an HPUX server from a Linux laptop but I don't want to install Linux on a HPUX server, I just want my laptop to have the behavior of an ignite CD.
First step : DHCP protocol - OK
Second step : bootp protocol - OK
Third step : tftp protocol - Problem
At this step, HPUX server (called target) tries to download the LIF which is already create, I just want to download it. This step fails because of a the HPUX tftp protocol.
I expect afterward that the target use Linux laptop as depot server. But all depots are HPUX format. They are not linux rpm !

I want this simply to get an easy way to modify my depot. If I use a CD, the
whole depot are fixed.

[Pete Randall]

See above.

No can do.

Pete

[Tom Dawson]

Kaidi,

First, I agree with everyone above, it can't be done.

But with that said, as I thought about your problem, I came up with this academic exercise:

The Ignite "make_tape_recovery" process creates a bootable tape with two sections. First there is the LIF area, then that is followed by a tar backup of the OS directories. If you could somehow write that LIF area to an image on your Linux server, you might be able to tftp that to begin the install ( recovery ? ) of the HP-UX server. If that worked, tftp'ing the tar backup would be trivial.

This is a process most probably doomed to failure, but good luck!

Tom

[harry d brown jr]

Tom,

Though it looks like a tar it's really pax.

live free or die
harry

[kaidi]

Hello,
I want to install an HPUX server from a Linux laptop under Linux: the server had to boot on the laptop which answers as a Linux server.
So, I want to install an HPUX server from a Linux laptop but I don't want to install Linux on a HPUX server, I just want my laptop to have the behavior of an ignite CD.
First step : DHCP protocol - OK
Second step : bootp protocol - OK
Third step : tftp protocol - Problem
At this step, HPUX server (called target) tries to download the LIF which is already create, I just want to download it. This step fails because of a the HPUX tftp protocol.
I expect afterward that the target use Linux laptop as depot server. But all depots are HPUX format. They are not linux rpm !

I want this simply to get an easy way to modify my depot. If I use a CD, the
whole depot are fixed.

[harry d brown jr]

Did you mean to repeat yourself?

live free or die
harry

[kaidi]

Hello,
I want to install an HPUX server from a Linux laptop under Linux: the server had to boot on the laptop which answers as a Linux server.
So, I want to install an HPUX server from a Linux laptop but I don't want to install Linux on a HPUX server, I just want my laptop to have the behavior of an ignite CD.
First step : DHCP protocol - OK
Second step : bootp protocol - OK
Third step : tftp protocol - Problem
At this step, HPUX server (called target) tries to download the LIF which is already create, I just want to download it. This step fails because of a the HPUX tftp protocol.
I expect afterward that the target use Linux laptop as depot server. But all depots are HPUX format. They are not linux rpm !

I want this simply to get an easy way to modify my depot. If I use a CD, the
whole depot are fixed.
Please see attached message.

[harry d brown jr]

WOW! A little anal eh?

[Pete Randall]

It won't work.
It won't work.
It won't work.
It won't work.
It won't work.

Pete

[Shannon Petry]

There is also alot that goes on behind the scenes after the LIF is loaded. I.E.
1. NETWORKING FOR IGNITE IS NOT CONTROLLED ON THE CLIENT NECESSARILY
2. SWAGENTD DOES NOT EXIST FOR LINUX, ASSUME THERE IS COMMUNICATIONS BETWEEN swagent@client AND swagent@server

3. Even if you downloaded the LIF where is it to be stored and extracted?


If you feel that were all wrong, instead of reposting your question and wasting our time, try writing your own code to do it if your so sure it can be done.


Aint gonna happen!
Regards,
Shannon

[kaidi]

It won't work.
It won't work.
It won't work.
It won't work.
It won't work.

WHY????
WHY????
WHY????
WHY????

I don't ask my question in this forum because of desturbing someone!!! I just try to understand why it doesn't work???
Thank's

[Dietmar Konermann]

After some handwork it should be possible to let the HP-UX server boot an INSTALL kernel from the Linux box... which then should be able to download the mini system and do some initial tasks.

But the problem will start with the software load phase... there is no SD-UX implementation on Linux, so it cannot act as an Ignite server.

Regards...
Dietmar.

[Wodisch]

Hello Kaidi,

if you use BOOTP there is no reason for DHCP...
Getting the IP-parameters and the TFTP bootfile name from BOOTP server on your laptop will work fine.
Delivering the "golden image" from a "make_net_recovery" to that laptop (NFS server) *should* work, if that golden image is prepared to get everything over NFS instead of SD-UX (HP proprietary protocol).
So, what IS the error message you get from TFTP?
And for the details: read the documentation on the Ignite/UX home page:
http://software.hp.com/products/IUX/
There is a document about "creating your own media", which contains the information!

HTH,
Wodisch