HP Webservers ??

[Leif Halvarsson_2]

Hi,

I was going to download the HP Webserver packet but was confused about different versions.

Product #: HPUXWSATW213
Version: 2.13
Software specification:
HP-UX 11.00 and 11i PA-RISC
HP-UX 11i PA-RISC with IPv6 support
HP-UX 11i version 2 PA-RISC/IPF 64-bit
HP-UX 11i version 2 PA-RISC/IPF 32-bit

IPF 32 or 64 ???? (what is IPF)

Which version is correct for me ?

It should run on a rp3410, HP-UX 11.23

[Jeff Schussele]

Hi Leif,

IPF = Itanium Product Family
As to whether you want 32 or 64 bit would be determined, I'd think, strictly by memory addressing required. Is this going to be a big honking web-server? Then 64-bit's for you. If not, then 32-bit should suffice.
So you need one of the bottom two depending on address space required.

HTH,
Jeff

[Steven E. Protter]

You want the PA-RISC version. 32 or 64 bit will make little difference.

Because the OS's were integrated with 11i v2 it allows the same application to be packaged and distributed for either PA-RISC or IPF.

rp servers are PA-RISC.

SEP

[Torsten.]

Hi Leif,

it seems to me like only the apache version is 32 or 64 bit.

see

http://h20293.www2.hp.com/portal/swdepot/displayInstallInfo.do?productNumber=HPUXWSATW213

So I think this is the right one for you:

HP-UX 11i version 2 PA-RISC/IPF 64-bit

[Leif Halvarsson_2]

Hi,

Thank you.

Is actually HP-UX 11.23 supported on 32 bit architecture ?

[Muthukumar_5 · Accepted solution]

yes. HP-UX 11.23 supported on 32 bit architecture.

Start your work as,

# uname -m
# model

Decides IPF / PA-RISC

# getconf KERNEL_BITS

If it is 64 then you can get 64 bit else if 32 get 32 bit.

hth.

[Leif Halvarsson_2]

Hi,

Thanks again,

It was several years since HP had 32 bit PA-RISC computers on the program. I thought they was all out of support. That't why I was confused about 32/64 bit.

[Pete Randall]

I've got to take exception to the statement that v2 is supported on 32 bit hardware. See:

http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/12079_div/12079_div.HTML#Supported%20Hardware

"Retired Hardware

The following hardware platforms are no longer supported:

HP 9000 Server platforms:
All 32-bit servers (incl. 32-bit A-class servers -- A180, A180C)"


Pete

[Leif Halvarsson_2]

Hi,

Seems as my first thoughts was correct, no support for 32 bit architecture in 11.23 .

Then again, my original question (about HP Webservers):

HP-UX 11i version 2 PA-RISC/IPF 32-bit

What is it about ?

[Muthukumar_5]

Refer this:

http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=448207&admit=-682735245+1129027276788+28353475

I hope applications can be in 32 bit mode and can be run in 11.23 platform which is having 64 bit model.

Sample application(s):

a) http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=171&context=SSFKSJ&q1=itanium&uid=swg24006625&loc=en_US&cs=utf-8〈=en+en
b) http://www.iona.com/products/future_releases.htm

hth.

[Ermin Borovac]

32-bit here is referring to bitness of the apache binaries rather than architecture.

[Leif Halvarsson_2]

Hi,

I understand, and not understand ...

rp3410 is 64 bit (PA 8800), no doubt.

PA 8800 can run 32 bit PA-RISC code so programs compiled on a 32 bit PA-RISC may run on a rp3410 HP-UX 11.23. Perhaps also the reverse is possible, compile 32 bit program on 11.23 and run on a 32 bit PA-RISC (on a previous HP-UX version).

But, why bother to create a separate 32 bit version of an application for 11.23 as there is no 32 bit platform for that version of HP-UX.

When should the 32 bit version of HP Webservers for HP-UX 11.23 be installed.

[Duncan Edmonstone]

HPUX11.23 is a 64-bit OS. This means that the kernel itself is 64-bit, and needs a 64-bit processor to run on. It will of course run binaries that are just 32-bit.

Why offer 32-bit and 64-bit binaries for an app rather than just 64-bit binaries?

Performance.

64-bit gives you bigger address spaces, bigger registers etc. etc. In certain workloads thats gonna make things much quicker... for other workloads, simply allocating and using all these big data sets just slows things down - you don't need em, so why allocate em? Also memory utilisation - 64-bit processes tend to eat up a lot more memory. Hence 32-bit executables...

My advice would be to download both and try a load test with both - you might just find the 32-bit executables are faster...

HTH

Duncan

[rick jones]

IIRC, it is only Opteron (or x86_64 if you prefer) that requires a 64-bit compile to access the full register space. PA-RISC and Itanium give you all the registers in either 32-bit or 64-bit mode.

One might want a 32-bit application, even on a 64-bit kernel, because the desired plugins are only 32-bit, although in this day and age, any code produced that isn't at least 64-bit "clean" is IMO broken (even I happen to have written it :)