Itanium 2

[Tim D Fulford]

My 0.02???

The PA-8800 & (PA-8900 roadmapped) are slight insurance policies for HP incase Madison, deefield etc crash (Itanium2 +). PA-8800 is due out Q3 2003 & PA-8900 2004, so there will still be some legs left in PA-RISC

The PA-8800 is a dual core chip, of two PA-8700's sharing 3MB cache (PA-8700 has 2.25MB)... BUT it has 32MB cache on-die. Effectively you should be able to turn a 4-cpu rp54xx into an 8-cpu (rp74xx)

Our company is in a quandry, do we port to Itanium with, quite frankly staggeringly high tpm-c values e.g
rx5670, 4x 1.5 GHz does about 120,000,
rp8400 with 16x750MHz does 140,000.
The cost are ~ $130k & $575k respectievly!!!

BTW to look at chip specs try

http://www.geek.com/procspec/procspec.htm

Tim

[Ian Lochray]

I am in a similar position to Tim. We are an HP reseller. We sell our own application and the hardware that goes with it. When we quote for a HP-UX solution it works out considerably more expensive compared to an equivalent Windows setup. We can try to persuade customers about the reliability and scalability of HP-UX but, when it comes to making a decision, the company FD generally steps in and goes for the much cheaper (in the short term anyway) Windows solution. We can supply on either platform but I want them all to take UNIX because they will have a far happier life in the long term.

HP-UX on Itanium 2 seems to be the perfect solution. The TPM per $ looks to be outstanding and will only get better. So long as HP-UX 11.23 provides the same reliability as HP-UX on PA-RISC I think that we in the UNIX world are on a winner.

We will have to provide PA-RISC support for many years to come but I for one want to produce and sell HP-UX Itanium 2 solutions ASAP.