ll not working

[Amiel Tutolo]

When I am logged in as any user and I am at the / (root level) the ll command including ls -l and other variations returns nothing. If I do an ls -a it works. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[Jean-Luc Oudart]

Hi

please post
which ll
type ll

if you enter /usr/bin/ll what is the output like ?

Regards,
Jean-Luc

[Steven E. Protter]

whence ll

Is it there?

ls -la the put put.

This is a command, not an alias, so if its there it should work.

Next, Check PATH variable, make sure /usr/bin is part of it.

SEP

[Jeff Schussele]

Hi Amiel,

When you see this problem - run

which ls
and
which ll

It *should* come back
/bin/ls
/bin/ll

If it's different, then there's other ls and ll binaries out there & you need to get /bin into your path *before* their location.

Rgds,
Jeff

[Amiel Tutolo]

which ll returns /usr/bin/ll
type ll retruns ll is /usr/bin/ll

ls -l the put put returns
the not found
put not found
put not found

/usr/bin is in $PATH

[Amiel Tutolo]

which ll and which ls return
/usr/bin/ls
/usr/bin/ll

[Amiel Tutolo]

Just for calrification the command hangs until I kill it when running at the / level.

[Pete Randall]

I think SEP was referring to a form of miniature golf..

;^)


Pete

[Sridhar Bhaskarla · Accepted solution]

Hi,

I believe you have an NFS filesystems that is hanging. ls will work but not ll as it has to generate a long listing.

YOu will need to get your NFS fixed first. Your bdf may be hanging too. To find out the NFS mounted file systems do cat /etc/mnttab. Check the NFS servers from where you are mounting and fix them if they are not responding.

-Sri

[Jeroen Peereboom]

Some guesses:

* Try an /usr/bin/ls -l | cat -v.
Maybe there are control characters in ls's output,

* Do you use NIS or something like that? Maybe usernames / groupnames cannot be found?

* No problem on other directory?

JP.

[Jeroen Peereboom]

Forgot to mention:
Does bdf command work?

JP

[Patrick Wallek]

You need to verify that your 'ls' executable is OK. ll, l, lsf, lsr and others are hard links to ls. If you do the following:

# cd /usr/bin
# ls -l l lc ll ls lsf lsr lsx

-r-xr-xr-x 7 bin bin 28672 May 5 2003 /usr/bin/l*
-r-xr-xr-x 7 bin bin 28672 May 5 2003 /usr/bin/lc*
-r-xr-xr-x 7 bin bin 28672 May 5 2003 /usr/bin/ll*
-r-xr-xr-x 7 bin bin 28672 May 5 2003 /usr/bin/ls*
-r-xr-xr-x 7 bin bin 28672 May 5 2003 /usr/bin/lsf*
-r-xr-xr-x 7 bin bin 28672 May 5 2003 /usr/bin/lsr*
-r-xr-xr-x 7 bin bin 28672 May 5 2003 /usr/bin/lsx*

You should get something like the above. Notice the '7' in the link count and the fact that they are all the same size. This should be the case on your machine as well.

This list was taken on an 11.11 machine, so yours may be slightly different depending on your OS release and any patches you may have installed.

If any of the files in the list are different, then I would look at your backups and see what changed.

Also -- are you sure you have permissions to see all of the info when logged in as a user? Are there any NFS mounts involved?

[Amiel Tutolo]

I am not currently using NFS on this system. The cat on /etc/mnttab does show a /net listing that I do not see on my other systems. The /usr/bin/ls -l | cat -v hangs until I kill it.

[Jean-Luc Oudart]

Any NFS mounted file systems ?

libautofs.a
SR: 8606221217
DTS: JAGad90351
The "ll" command hangs in the case of an automounted
file system if the server is down.


Regards,
JL

[Sridhar Bhaskarla]

Them you probably have a corrupted filesystem or a mount point that is not available or hanging. Do you see any error messages in 'dmesg' or /var/adm/syslog/syslog.log file?

-Sri

[Jean-Luc Oudart]

Could you post ?
/etc/rc.config.d/nfsconf
/etc/auto_master

Regards,
Jean-Luc

[Sridhar Bhaskarla]

Well -


//
The cat on /etc/mnttab does show a /net listing that I do not see on my other systems. //

This does mean you have an NFS issue. YOu will need to fix your NFS server. What entry do you have corresponding to /net?. Can you ping to that server?.

-Sri

[Mark Grant]

I agree with Sridhar here,

I have seen this a few times and it has always been a filesystem corruption. "ls" only needs to read a directory whereas "ls -l" needs to look up the filesystem inodes.

I would attempt to unmount the filesystem and do an "fsck" on it.

Also, just to be sure, you could try your "ls -l" in another filesystem or two and see if it works there.

One more thing, your "/net" is probably an automounted NFS filesystem. By default the auto mount it configured with a /net filesystem which NFS mounts other hosts on your network when you attempt to cd to /net/ assuming it is allowed to.

[Amiel Tutolo]

Thanks for the great responses so far. The /net is what is causing the problems i am usre because I am now try a reboot and it is hanging when trying to mount connect to /net. Is there any easy way out of this? I am going to turn the nfs server off as soon as I can get in because this machine will not need it.

[Amiel Tutolo]

Can I stop the boot where it is trying to do the following:
NFS server (pid1102@/net) not responding still trying

Then can I edit some file to take care of this?

[Jean-Luc Oudart]

If you don't mount any remote fs you should turn off NFS client alltogether.

change
NFS_CLIENT=0
in /etc/rc.config.d/nfsconf
and then /sbin/init.d/nfs.client stop

If this is just automount :
change
AUTOMOUNT = 0
in /etc/rc.config.d/nfsconf
and re-start nfs client

Regards
Jean-Luc

[Jean-Luc Oudart]

Furthemore
check patch details: PHNE_30168

http://www4.itrc.hp.com/service/cki/patchDocDisplay.do?patchId=PHNE_30168

Regards,
Jean-Luc

[Mark Grant]

Turn off the automounter if you don't use it.

Go into /etc/rc.config.d and have a look at nfsconf. At the bottom you'll find a reference to the autofs and automount. Set them to 0

[Sridhar Bhaskarla]

Hi,

Since you already rebooted the server, I would suggest you to get into single user mode. ONce in single user mode do

#mount /usr
#export TERM=vt100

Or whatever appropriate
#mount /var
#clear (make sure it works otherwise you have to set your TERM)
#vi /etc/rc.config.d/nfsconf

Turn-off both NFS_CLIENT and NFS_SERVER (set them to 0). Then get into multi-user mode
#init 3

-Sri