Netscape quits whenever I want to type an @

[Timo Springmann]

Hi there!

This is my first time here, so please ignore my faults ;)

ok, here's my probleme. I just upgraded my J2240 maschine from Netscape 4.08 to 4.75. Everything went fine but now, everytime I want to write an @ in netscape, it quits. This is really annying, cause I cannot write an email adresse without cut & past the @ from a console or any other app.

I'm using hp-ux 10.20 on an, as already said, J2240 server.

I think it has something to do with, that I'm using a german keyboard and to reach the @-symbol I have to use AltGr+Q. But Alt (not AltGr) is also the shortcut for Quit. I didn't found anything to corect this little problem. I just can say that it worked perfectly with Netscape 4.08.

btw, same problem with the depot file from HP ans the tar.gz file from netscape ftp server.

Anyone can help? This is really annoying me... grrr...

so long,
Timo

[Stefan Farrelly]

Check you terminal settings by doing; stty -a

Youve probably got the @ sign assigned to some key which you need to redefine using a different key.

[Timo Springmann]

Hey!

Thanks for your quick answer, but I think it's a different problem.

Here ist the output of "stty -a":
speed 9600 baud; line = 0;
rows = 24; columns = 80
min = 0; time = 0;
intr = ^C; quit = ^\; erase = ^H; kill = ^U
eof = ^D; eol = ^@; eol2 = ^@; swtch = ^@
stop = ^S; start = ^Q; susp = ^Z; dsusp = ^@
werase = ^@; lnext = ^@
parenb -parodd cs8 -cstopb hupcl cread -clocal -loblk -crts
-ignbrk -brkint -ignpar -parmrk -inpck -istrip -inlcr -igncr icrnl -iuclc
ixon -ixany ixoff -imaxbel -rtsxoff -ctsxon -ienqak
isig icanon -iexten -xcase echo echoe echok -echonl -noflsh
-echoctl -echoprt -echoke -flusho -pendin
opost -olcuc onlcr -ocrnl -onocr -onlret -ofill -ofdel -tostop

But as I said, I think it's a different problem. Cause with Netscape 4.08 it works very well.

so long,
Timo

[Stefan Farrelly]

You got me. Why dont you download the latest version for hpux from Netscape, 4.77, were using it here and its fine - I can generate @ chars fine, tried your key combination and it didnt crash.

[Timo Springmann]

Well, I already did that. I tried Netscape 4.77 and 4.75 from netscape ftp and 4.75 from HP. Everytime I have the same problem.

I don't think that netscape is crashing, it just quits. I think the key combination AltGr+Q (which generates the @ here) is treated at Alt+Q (which is the shortcut for quit).

After some more investigation I think it's not a netscape feature/bug. I think it has something to do with the german keyboard...

so, I still need held :)

so long,
timo

[Steve Post]

I noticed when you ran stty, you had the ^@ as the kill character. Like you said, this may not be it. BUT why don't you run this before starting netscape.
stty kill ^U (as in control-U).

My guess is your little netscape is humming along (hum hum hum). Then it sees the @ key. It says to itself "Hey, that's the kill command. I better stop." So it dies.

Perhaps it dies even if you type "stty kill ^U" ahead of time. My next guess would be some background process that uses @ as the kill key. If that is the case, maybe "stty kill ^U" could go in /etc/profile for a second, for more tests.

[Andreas Voss]

Hi,

this problem has been issued in the past.
Please look at this thread:
http://forums.itrc.hp.com/cm/QuestionAnswer/1,1150,0x1cfb6c96588ad4118fef0090279cd0f9,00.html

Regards

[Enno Baars]

There's another, maybe cleaner solution:

Some programs, including netscape, use Alt- sequences to trigger certain events. Unfortunately Alt-Q is commonly used for 'quit' by those programs while AltGr-Q gives the '@' sign on german keyboards.

The trouble is, that very often X11 does not distinguish between those two keys (Alt and AltGr).

So all you need to do is tell X11 that those two keys are in fact different. 'xmodmap' is the program to use - look at the man page and you'll find lots of examples. Voila - all applications work fine!

Cheers,

Enno.