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тАО05-20-2009 03:29 PM
тАО05-20-2009 03:29 PM
Is it possible to configure Oracle 11g for RAC without deploying Operating System Clusters ?
If yes then how ?
Thanks,
Shiv
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тАО05-20-2009 10:12 PM
тАО05-20-2009 10:12 PM
Solutionhttp://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/B28359_01/install.111/b28259/toc.htm
However if you go down this route understand that:
i) You *must* use ASM for your database and flash recovery area - no filesystem support
ii) You will need to ensure that you have native MPIO for raw disks, as ASM can't do MPIO - and you *can't* use LVM PVlinks - so you'll need to be on 11.31 with supported storage or on earlier versions hgave some MPIO software like HP Secure Path, HDS HDLM, or EMC PowerPath
iii) You'll need to provide network resilience in the form of APA as well, as Clusterware can't do this.
iv) Clusterware also doesn't monitor cluster interconnect
v) Clusterware has inferior hung-node detection to Serviceguard as it isn't kernel integrated - just do a google search on "oprocd toc" for many examples
vi) Integation of 3rd party apps is weak in Clusterware - for example no IO fencing is provided for non-ASM storage.
... I could go on...
HTH
Duncan
I am an HPE Employee

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тАО05-24-2009 09:03 PM
тАО05-24-2009 09:03 PM
Re: Oracle RAC without OS Cluster
Is there any reason behind it and oracle wants to push its own home grown inferior technologies ?
Seems like Operating Systems cluster like Service Guard is much better option ??
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тАО05-25-2009 03:32 AM
тАО05-25-2009 03:32 AM
Re: Oracle RAC without OS Cluster
Dear Shiv
Service guard will get the control up to u logical volume, which means it doesn'thave any control over u oracle
thanks and regards
Sajjad Sahir
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тАО05-26-2009 10:29 AM
тАО05-26-2009 10:29 AM
Re: Oracle RAC without OS Cluster
If you use OS clustering to manage Oracle without RAC then you can't do transparent failover. An OS cluster system has to detect the failure, bring up the service IP, mount the filesystems (which will be dirty if you crashed), and start the databases (which will also be dirty if you crashed). While that happens your database is unavailable. When it comes back all the apps have to reestablish their connections, which some apps don't handle very well.
RAC is an active-active cluster and the Oracle client handles failover internally. RAC replaces the simple OS-level process failover with application-level clustering for failover and higher performance (multiple RAC nodes can process queries simultaneously), but you have to supply your own shared storage and network redundancy. As mentioned, RAC without an actual cluster filesystem means using raw volumes. Raw volumes are a nuisance to manage for everybody involved, and they tend to waste expensive SAN space.
RAC licensing and support is also very expensive, and it's much more complex for the DBAs than standalone Oracle servers. RAC is a good example of being able to have all the availability and performance you can pay for.
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тАО05-26-2009 10:38 AM
тАО05-26-2009 10:38 AM
Re: Oracle RAC without OS Cluster
Service Guard is not required to run Oracle 11g RAC.
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тАО05-26-2009 10:50 AM
тАО05-26-2009 10:50 AM
Re: Oracle RAC without OS Cluster
> Is there any reason behind it and oracle
> wants to push its own home grown inferior
> technologies ?
I am assuming this is a rhetorical question but regardless I will humor you and myself and answer.
Q. Why ?
A. Money !
Simple enough ? They want to make money by suggesting you license Clusterware from Oracle instead of paying HP for serviceguard. Also the ongoing support fees. It is the gravy train. They do not care if your enterprise suffers, as long as you pay Oracle their fees and they promise you that shortcoming will be addressed in the next release or two. :)
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тАО05-26-2009 09:30 PM
тАО05-26-2009 09:30 PM
Re: Oracle RAC without OS Cluster
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тАО06-23-2009 03:47 AM
тАО06-23-2009 03:47 AM
Re: Oracle RAC without OS Cluster
http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/database/asm/index.html
Third-party clustering was a pre-requisite for oracle RAC only until oracle 9i.