Please Report Forums Issues - April 2003

[albert_hua]

It's really a pain if I can not remove or edit the reply I submitted wrongly.

Also I want to reply the question on the same web page but not another new one so that I can see the above messages clearly when replying.

At last, I want to quote others' words automatically by one click but not 'Selection -> Ctrl+V -> Ctrl+C'.

[Bill McNAMARA_1]

FYI: procura, I see more or less the same 'waste' in IE6 on win2k. (shame on me!)

Later,
Bill

[Adam J Markiewicz]

Hi Dan.

Could you please check:

http://forums.itrc.hp.com/cm/QuestionAnswer/1,,0x3f2a9607df6ed711abdc0090277a778c,00.html

This is actually the continuation of:

http://forums.itrc.hp.com/cm/QuestionAnswer/1,,0xa81e9607df6ed711abdc0090277a778c,00.html

which is continued there. I think it was posted by mistake because was 'Post new thread' instead of 'Replay' by the new user.
I think it could be remove to clean the situation where to post all answers.

However mayby should be consulted with the author?
Thanks.

Good luck
Adam

[H.Merijn Brand (procura]

And - while complaining - I'd like to see the dates `normal' and not in the braindead US format. 17-04-2003.

If that's too hard, at least use something less confusing

2003-04-17 or even 20030417

123 is not twohundredthirteen

Enjoy, have FUN! H.Merijn

[James R. Ferguson]

Hi Dan:

I believe that at one time the Forum engine was able to reject duplicate submisssions. That is, if I submitted an identical response twice or even three times by pressing the submit button successively, then all but one post would be rejected. If indeed that was ever the case, it's broken:

http://forums.itrc.hp.com/cm/QuestionAnswer/1,,0xeb299607df6ed711abdc0090277a778c,00.html

Regards!

...JRF...

[James R. Ferguson]

For Merijn:

I agree that dates should be less ambiguously represented by including the century and year:

e.g. 04/17/2003 instead of 04/17/03 (mm/dd/yy).

It is United States (US) standard to use MMDDYY and I believe European standard to reverse the day and month to DDMMYY, if I recall correctly.

My question is what's "braindead US format"?

Regards!

...JRF...

[Zafar A. Mohammed_1]

Dan,

I always have problems with "search" page from the hp-ux Forums page. When I click on search I get:
HTTP 400 - Bad Request on Internet Explorer
or
nothing will come up.

Sometimes I have to close the IE and open multiple times. I think there is some incompatibility with IE. Will you please findout more. Search page is very important for us.

Thanks
Zafar

[S.K. Chan]

Hi Dan,
Please delete the duplicate replies that were mine from this thread. Points were assigned to the same reply, which is not how it should be :)

http://forums.itrc.hp.com/cm/QuestionAnswer/1,,0xeb299607df6ed711abdc0090277a778c,00.html

Thanks !

[Ramkumar Devanathan]

Dan,

you may assign those points of chan to me instead ;-)))

- ramd.

[Patrick Wallek]

Ahhh Merijn,

The BIG question is: What is normal? What is normal to me is "braindead US" to you. I have always thought that the European format was strange. Why would you want the day before the month? ;)

I personally have no problem with the dates as they are. ;)

Dan -- Would it be possible to somehow allow us to choose the date format we want to see? It would give Merijn the chance to choose the European format (DD/MM/YY) and I could stick with the braindead US format (MM/DD/YY).

[H.Merijn Brand (procura]

Why it is strange? because it is - for as far as I know - the only entity that is not sorted small(DD)-to-large(YYYY) or back, but is in fact unsortable at all.

I don't care if 20030417 is better or worse than 17042003, but at least the elements within the entity have a logical small-to-large or large to small (weighted) value, just like numbers: 123 is worldwide recognized as onehundredandtwentythree (though some languages, like dutch and norwegian are so stupid to say onehundredthreeandtwenty. Bizarre, and just as stupid as the written date system in the US, so I'm not being discriminating)

Wheesh, that clears my mind.

Continue to Enjoy please, have FUN! H.Merijn

[John Collier]

Ok. My turn to get in on the date issue.

Merijn,

I hate to say it but these forums are currently hosted in the USA and that means that we are rather partial to the ???Braindead US??? manner of placing the month first, the day second and that year last. That is all of the ???weight??? that we need to be comfortable with it.

Since you have grown up seeing a different format, you will be more comfortable seeing it in that manner than you will be seeing it our way.

Which is ???right??? and which is ???wrong????

The only true answer to that depends on where you are in the world.


Personally I am still rather partial to the way it is right this minute and would hate to see it change. For me it would do nothing but confuse things even more than they are right now.


**I now return the soapbox to it???s previous place so that the next person may use it**

[Ramkumar Devanathan]

John, was just looking at your profile. Apart from the quote i found this interesting -

"This member has assigned points to 228 of 212 responses to his/her questions."

How did you manage to assign points to more no. of responses than you've actually got?

- ramd.
'That which kills the cat.'

[John Poff]

Hi,

I have some ideas to solve the Great Date Dilemma.

We could adopt an international, United Nations type format where
the date format for the forum rotates on a monthly basis. One month
it could be the U.S. format, and the next month it could be the Dutch
format. [Of course, the French could always veto the format for any
month.] I wonder what date format they use in Madagascar? I wonder if
they still call it Madagascar?

Or, we could persuade the HP folks to modify the forum code so that each
forum user could select the date format in their profile [as suggested by
a previous poster]. I'm sure this wouldn't slow down the forum much at all,
especially since there are brief periods when forum response times are best
measured with a calendar anyway. ;)

Perhaps we should be true Unix geeks and do away with the date formats,
and just display them as the number of seconds since Jan. 1, 1970. Or
1 Jan. 1970. Or 1970, 1 Jan. Oh, here we go again. The operating system
is perfectly content with just the number of seconds since that date. Why
shouldn't we be happy with it also?

I'd like to do away with all the dates, and replace them with "Today",
"Yesterday", "Last Week", "Last Month", and finally "older than Bob Hope".

Then again, we could combine the Great Date Dilemma with the
Great Points Debate, and only allow people to see dates if they have
assigned points.

JP

"another braindead American who was actually sober when he wrote this" :)

P.S. It *IS* still called Madagascar:

http://www.embassy.org/madagascar/

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ma.html

[Jeff Schussele]

Hear, Hear King John!
Well said.....I think....by that I mean I think I'll put $5 down on the GPD. No way the GDD will be solved first.

TGIF,
Jeff

"neither...it's Friday after all...." =~))

P.S. I'd rather visit Mauritius...we've a new comrade there. Madagascar's too hot.

[Steven E. Protter]

In case the email didn't go through.

I personally got 404 HTTP page not found while trying to post between 2:30 p.m. Central and 11:35 p.m. Central yesterday.

Just thought someone might want to know.

SEP

[Ron Kinner]

Dan,

If you are back from your immune system tuneup (the flu) could you clean up:

http://forums.itrc.hp.com/cm/QuestionAnswer/1,,0xc82e9607df6ed711abdc0090277a778c,00.html

Seems the submit button got stuck and there are about 20 identical replies.

Ron

[Michael Tully]

Hi Dan,

Looks like the search engine has gone bye bye again ... Same as before .... HTTP 404

Cheers
Michael

[Michael Steele_2]

April 22, 2003
2:00 AM EDT

Search engine down again.

[Kelli Ward]

Aaarrggh.
Search Engine withdrawl. Must have search engine, getting 404.
help...
Thanks ;)
Kel

[Michael Tully]

Search engine is up ....!

[Michael Tully]

Hi Dan,

The network is playing havoc again. I seem to managed a multiple reply to this thread.... I was trigger happy with the submit button.

and during the same period there were a number of postings of the same question. "Networkaccess to Omniback"

http://forums.itrc.hp.com/cm/QuestionAnswer/1,,0x997138dfa974d711abdc0090277a778c,00.html

Regards
Michael

[H.Merijn Brand (procura]

I attached a graph (http://forums.itrc.hp.com/cm/components/FileAttachment/0,,0xcf7238dfa974d711abdc0090277a778c,00.png) in your congrat thread (http://forums.itrc.hp.com/cm/QuestionAnswer/0,,0xce7238dfa974d711abdc0090277a778c,00.html), but it got lost in both Mozilla and opera. I get a 404

HTTP Error 404

404 Not Found

The Web server cannot find the file or script you asked for. Please check the URL to ensure that the path is correct.

Please contact the server's administrator if this problem persists.

Enjoy, have FUN! H.Merijn

[H.Merijn Brand (procura]

same for http://forums.itrc.hp.com/cm/QuestionAnswer/1,,0x2e7338dfa974d711abdc0090277a778c,00.html

D'uh! They are sooooo nice.

Does the forum reject png's?

First was posted with Opera, second with mozilla. If you can replace them with the correct versions, I can mail them to you. Next time, I'll try jpg

Enjoy, have FUN! H.Merijn

[H.Merijn Brand (procura]

PNG's are rejected (or simply lost in space, or whatever is wrong on your side), whereas JPG's are accepted.

Schiet mij maar lek.

Enjoy, have FUN! H.Merijn