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01-25-2023 12:00 AM - last edited on 01-26-2023 09:31 PM by support_s
01-25-2023 12:00 AM - last edited on 01-26-2023 09:31 PM by support_s
Question about HPE CSA(Cloud Service Automation) and Cloud Service
Hello, I have a several questions regarding to HP Cloud service and HPE CSA.
Currently we are operating/running service using HPE BL860ci4 physical server with HP-UX OS.
And I have a 2 questions.
1) If I want to use AWS as a cloud service but still want to use HP-UX for OS, is it possible? and is there any guideline for this setup?
2) I heard that using HPE Cloud Service Automation (CSA) on top of a cloud service like AWS allow to run HP-UX. Is there any detail about this?
3) Is there any CLoud Serivce from HP that can run HP-UX for OS? than can i get detail about this?
Thank you
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01-25-2023 01:45 PM
01-25-2023 01:45 PM
Re: Question about HPE CSA(Cloud Service Automation) and Cloud Service
HP-UX runs on either PA-RISC or Itanium based systems. I do not know of any cloud services that offer either of these server types.
I am 99% certain that neither Azure nor AWS offer this.
There is a company called Stromasys (I do not work for them) that can run PA-RISC based HP-UX on x86 based hardware via an emulator of some sort. I don't know if they can emulate the Itanium hardware.
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01-26-2023 10:08 AM
01-26-2023 10:08 AM
Re: Question about HPE CSA(Cloud Service Automation) and Cloud Service
1. I'm pretty sure Cloud Service Automation is not a product you can any longer purchase from HPE.
2. As Patrick states, HP-UX needs to run on a system with a PA-RISC CPU (HP9000) or a system with an Itanium CPU (Integrity). The big hyperscalers (AWS/Azure/GCP) typically only offer cloud services based on x86 and a limited number of ARM CPUs as well. To my knowledge, none offer cloud services based on systems with PA-RISC or Itanium CPUs
3. Patrick mention Stromasys, and it is true they sell an emulator that emulates PA-RISC systems on x86 hardware, however you should note i) They don't sell an emulator for Itanium systems and ii) the PA-RISC emulator they do sell is only licensed to run the venerable old MPE operating system, that HP sold back in the 80s/90s. Whether it is technically possible or not, the HP-UX license does not permit it to be run emulated on Stromasys's platform.
So TL:DR you have to run HP-UX as either on-premise, or if you can find a co-lo who might host your existing systems, they could at least be cloud-adjacent if your co-lo has decent connections to the usual hyperscaler cloud providers like AWS/Azure/GCP.
From a purely technical standpoint I have succesfully booted a HP-UX 11.11 OS on my home Windows PC using the QEMU hppa module, but this was simply an exercise in the art of the possible and you can only emulate a very old 32-bit workstation (B160L), there are all sorts of issues with anything that calls into the HP9000 PDC, and it is *incredibly slow*. That's before we get to the legal implications of doing this!
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