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02-07-2003 01:47 PM
02-07-2003 01:47 PM
I have a system that has outgrown the single DDS3 drive that is attached to the server. So I am thinking of getting a DDS3 Autoloader. On this server we use fbackup. Can I use fbackup with an autoloader? Or I am going to have to purchase another backup program? Any guidance would be appreciated and I will assign points.
John
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02-07-2003 01:52 PM
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Re: Question Regarding DDS 3 Autoloader
We primarily used it for omniback backups. There was configuration software to deal with tape changes and everything.
I was once told by support that you should be able to use fbackup on it, though how to do so is a question someone else is going to have to answer.
Fbackup will not be able to back up open database files such as oracle or sybase or adabas. To get clean backups of databases stored on vxfs filesystems, you'll either need to shut down the database or use a different product.
In omniback over v 3.5, there is built in oracle 8.x backup functionality using rman.
v 4.1 supports oracle 9.x backups using oracle tools.
Most of the major vendors, like Veritas, also supports the drive.
If you can figure out how to get a tape from the magazine into the tape drive on the auto loader, you should even be able to tar or cpio to it.
On our system it shows up as device /dev/rmt/1m
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02-07-2003 01:53 PM
02-07-2003 01:53 PM
Re: Question Regarding DDS 3 Autoloader
Yes you can,
http://forums.itrc.hp.com/cm/QuestionAnswer/1,,0x606b7e990647d4118fee0090279cd0f9,00.html
http://forums.itrc.hp.com/cm/QuestionAnswer/1,,0xe0b2ba808b46d611abda0090277a778c,00.html
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02-07-2003 01:57 PM
02-07-2003 01:57 PM
Re: Question Regarding DDS 3 Autoloader
Although I've personnally never used fbackup with these devices, the man page references autochangers & libraries so I don't see why not.
I'd suspect that in the fbackup command you'd specify the robot or loader in the -f parameter instead of the tape drive itself - but I'm not certain.
Rgds,
Jeff
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02-07-2003 01:57 PM
02-07-2003 01:57 PM
SolutionThis was back when I had backup & recovery as one of my sysadm functionality.
fbackup does support autoloaders. You will need to use -c option and specify a configuration file using chgvol script. You will need to chgvol script that will do the job for you.
Look at the following document. It's bit old but should work if you know the device files well.
//from knowledge database
An example fbackup chgvol for autoloaders DocId: KBRC00000107 Updated: 5/2/01 8:04:00 AM
PROBLEM
Below is an example chgvol script to enable the unattended use of tape
libraries and autoloaders with fbackup(1M). It is unsupported, but has
worked fine for many customers. It assumes the device file for the robotics
is at /dev/picker. This maybe changed in the script.
Save this script in the file /var/adm/fbackupfiles/chgvol, and make it
executable. You will need to make sure that one of the switches on the
fbackup command line is -y. If you are using sam to
schedule the backups then it is recommended to do the following to add the -
y:
1) cp /usr/sam/lbin/br_backup /usr/sam/lbin/br_backup.change
2) Change the cron job to call the modified br_backup.change
3) Edit the br_backup.change in the following two lines
FULL) backup_type="-0" to
FULL) backup_type="-0 -y"
and
PART) backup_type="-1" to
PART) backup_type="-1 -y"
Also you will need to use the -c option with fbackup, and specify
a configuration file(/var/adm/fbackupfiles/fbackup_config is a good
place for this file). Sam does this automatically. You will just need
to edit the existing file.
In this configuration file you should specify the following:
blocksperrecord 128
records 32
checkpointfreq 256
readerprocesses 2
maxretries 5
retrylimit 5000000
maxvoluses 100
chgvol /var/adm/fbackupfiles/chgvol
filesperfsm 200
RESOLUTION
#!/usr/bin/sh
####################
# chgvol for autoloaders
# Revision 1.0
# Date: 12/21/99
# Author: James Kirkland / jtk@atl.hp.com
# Purpose: To allow fbackup to work with autoloaders
# NOTE! This script is not supported by HP. It is provided as an example only!!
####################
# Setting up variables
TMPDIR=/var/tmp
RTDIR=/var/adm/chgvol
SES_FILE=$RTDIR/session
NUM=$TMPDIR/chg_num.tmp
PICKER=/dev/picker # device file for the robotic arm
#scripting
get_current_pid(){
NOW_PID=`ps -ef |grep fbackup |grep -v grep | cut -c 10-16`
return 0
}
is_sess_old (){
S_PID=`tail -1 $SES_FILE`
get_current_pid
if [ $NOW_PID -eq $S_PID ]
then
echo "Continuing with current session from fbackup PID $S_PID"
else
echo "This is the first tape change for fbackup PID $NOW_PID"
echo $NOW_PID > $SES_FILE
init_num
fi
return 0
}
init_num() {
echo "1" > $NUM
return 0
}
if [ -a $SES_FILE ]
then
is_sess_old
else
touch $SES_FILE
is_sess_old
fi
if [ -a $NUM ]
then
S_NUM=`cat $NUM`
else
init_num
S_NUM=`cat $NUM`
fi
S_NUM_OLD=$S_NUM
let S_NUM=S_NUM_OLD+1
if [ $S_NUM_OLD -gt 0 ]
then
echo "Moving tape from Drive 1 to Slot $S_NUM_OLD ."
mc -p $PICKER -s D1 -d S$S_NUM_OLD
#err code needed
echo "Moving tape from Slot $S_NUM to Drive 1 ."
mc -p $PICKER -s S$S_NUM -d D1
#err code needed
echo $S_NUM > $NUM
logger -t chgvol -p local0.info "Changing tape. Pulling from Slot
$S_NUM"
fi
exit 0
//end
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02-10-2003 05:43 AM
02-10-2003 05:43 AM
Re: Question Regarding DDS 3 Autoloader
If you want a supported solution, you will have to use something like HP's OmniBack.
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02-10-2003 05:46 AM
02-10-2003 05:46 AM
Re: Question Regarding DDS 3 Autoloader
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02-10-2003 05:58 AM
02-10-2003 05:58 AM
Re: Question Regarding DDS 3 Autoloader
For the money you're going to spend on an autoloader, you could actually get some slightly more current technology like a standalone DLT drive.
DLT8000 drives have a native capacity of 40 GB compared to the 12 GB capacity of a DDS3. Transfer rate is 6 MB/s compared to 1 MB/s. They're more dependable as well. Keep your old DDS3 around for loading firmware and the like but get a "real" tape drive for your backups.
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02-10-2003 06:04 AM
02-10-2003 06:04 AM
Re: Question Regarding DDS 3 Autoloader
I just installed a DLT drive on my J6000. It has a tape changer and holds up to 8 tapes. Each tape holds up to 70 GB compressed. I use fbackup to do backups. I scheduled the backups through SAM. I also have cron automatically load the correct tape for the day. I also used the DLT to create an ignite tape.
Tom
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02-10-2003 06:07 AM
02-10-2003 06:07 AM
Re: Question Regarding DDS 3 Autoloader
I forgot to mention that my DLT takes up two SCSI IDs, LUN0 and LUN1. This is because the tape drive uses a device ID (1), and the library changer uses a device ID (0).
Tom