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03-21-2001 05:25 AM
03-21-2001 05:25 AM
Re: SAM Quest
2A - LVM - command line
2B - FileSystem Mgmt - command line
2C - Swap - create command line -acitvate/turn SAM
2D - DiskArray Config - command line
2E - Disk Backups - Backups via OmniBack
3. User/Group - Tend do all this via SAM, only exception
is in adjusting passwd file for ftp access/chroot.
4. Not yet.
/rcw
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03-21-2001 08:09 AM
03-21-2001 08:09 AM
Re: SAM Quest
2 a. LVM - command line
2 b. Filesystem Management - command line
2 c. Swap - command line
2 d. Disk Array Configuration - haven't got one ... ;o)
2 e. Disk Backups - ignite
3 1. Adding Users (sadly none are ever removed)
3 2. Adding remote printers (That is; i add a printer one server (a) using jetadmin and when it's needed on another system (b) i use sam and add a remote printer on server a)
3 3. Occasionally some kernel config.
4. no.
Regards, Danny
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03-21-2001 08:16 AM
03-21-2001 08:16 AM
Re: SAM Quest
omniback on other systems (depends who has the license)
2) a. command line for LVM
b. command line
c. command line
d. command line or included tools with the array
e. command line or omniback GUI
3) Do not spend time in the users/groups area of SAM
4) no
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03-21-2001 09:00 AM
03-21-2001 09:00 AM
Re: SAM Quest
2) a,b,c commandline -> SAM is too slow on this LVM stuff, and some options are missing
3) Create local Users
4) no
What I miss is a pretty simple monitor to show memory allocation/distribution and in-mem/swapped-out (without installing glance or something like this).
Volker
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03-21-2001 01:17 PM
03-21-2001 01:17 PM
Re: SAM Quest
1. Veritas Netbackup followed by fbackup for small specialized stuff
2. Swap and LVM from sam all others from cli
3. create users and groups, but rarely, mostly do it by hand.
4. nope, never used toptools
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Jason V.
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03-21-2001 01:41 PM
03-21-2001 01:41 PM
Re: SAM Quest
a. fbackup/frecover
2. Do you perform the following tasks? If yes, HOW do you do them - with SAM or the system commands?
a. LVM --yes
b. Filesystem Management -command line
c. Swap -command line
d. Disk Array Configuration -command line
e. Disk Backups - command line
3. What are the top 3 - 5 tasks that you perform most often in SAM's User & Groups (UG) area? Which UG related tasks do you use system commands for instead? Any reasons? (Please differentiate between Local, NIS, NIS+ Users).
Mostly local users.
adding/modifying users and groups.
4. Have you ever used the HP program Top Tools? If yes, what do you use it for? do you like it? (www.hp.com/toptools)
Not used.
Thanks
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03-21-2001 02:47 PM
03-21-2001 02:47 PM
Re: SAM Quest
2. a. both SAM and Commands
b. command
c. command
3. Local
I use SAM for user/group creation;mod;& password reset
4. Never used it.
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03-22-2001 12:30 AM
03-22-2001 12:30 AM
Re: SAM Quest
2. a) SAM and command line
b) SAM and command line
c) SAM
e) command line
3. Add users and groups, modify users
4. No
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03-22-2001 03:33 AM
03-22-2001 03:33 AM
Re: SAM Quest
1. d,a
2. yes, I perform all the following tasks. On small servers I use the CLI only, for very large servers with tons of VG's/LV's then using SAM for a,b,d is easier so I do it that way.
3. Top 3 commands in SAM UG;
- Reactivate/deactivate account
- reset password (on secure systems)
- modify security policies (on secure systems)
I use the CLI instead now for creating new users (useradd) and deleting users (userdel) as its quickier and easier to do on the CLI and look up options with their manpages.
4. No, never used top tools. Never heard of it..will investigate.
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03-22-2001 12:33 PM
03-22-2001 12:33 PM
Re: SAM Quest
HP's OmniBack II & Ignite
2. Do you perform the following tasks? If yes, HOW do you do them - with SAM or the system commands?
a. LVM commands -- both
b. Filesystem Management commands -- both
c. Swap commands -- sam
d. Disk Array Configuration -- both
e. Disk Backups -- command & Omni gui
3. What are the top 3 - 5 tasks that you perform most often in SAM's User & Groups (UG) area? Which UG related tasks do you use system commands for instead? Any reasons? (Please differentiate between Local, NIS, NIS+ Users).
Do not use SAM for UG administration. (local or NIS)
4. Have you ever used the HP program Top Tools? If yes, what do you use it for? do you like it? (www.hp.com/toptools)
Dont use...
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03-22-2001 01:19 PM
03-22-2001 01:19 PM
Re: SAM Quest
1. e) Legato
2. a. LVM - Command line
b. Filesystem Management - Both
c. Swap - both
d. Disk Array Configuration - sam
e. Disk Backups -both
3. User/group creation,
Password aging
authentication
4. Not yet
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03-26-2001 07:35 AM
03-26-2001 07:35 AM
Re: SAM Quest
2. Yes; usually do LVM and filesystem management on the command line, and Swap config through SAM. Don't have any disk arrays to configure.
3. Creating users are about all I use SAM for, and infrequently as I don't create users often. Resetting passwords is easier to do from the command line.
4. No.
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05-09-2002 11:59 AM
05-09-2002 11:59 AM
Re: SAM Quest
2. a.b.c.d. (not e. see 1.)
3. User id:creation, deletion, pw reset, reactivation.
4. No, I don't know what it can do, Yes.
* Like most everyone else, I'd like SAM to be faster and do everything that I can do from the cmd line :-)
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05-09-2002 12:18 PM
05-09-2002 12:18 PM
Re: SAM Quest
2. LVM - SAM+ Commands
FS Mgt - SAM + Commands
SWAP - SAM
DISK ARRAY - Commands
DISK BACKUP - SAM + Omni Backup
3. Add/Remove Users
4. NO
John McDen
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05-09-2002 12:21 PM
05-09-2002 12:21 PM
Re: SAM Quest
1. a
2.a - Commands
2.b - commands
2.c - commands
2.d - NA
2.e - Scripts
3.Mostly doing through scripts or by editing the passwd and group file.
4 Never used.
Sandip
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05-09-2002 12:23 PM
05-09-2002 12:23 PM
Re: SAM Quest
2.c - commands
d - SAM
e - SAM
3.Adding and removing users
4.Not yet
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05-09-2002 12:29 PM
05-09-2002 12:29 PM
Re: SAM Quest
Here it is
1. OMNI BACK 3.5 SAN
2. LVM SAM and Command Line ( mostly command line)
FS Mgmt SAM and Command Line
SWAP SAM
Disk Array ( SAM , command Line we ahve EMC frames )
DISK BACKUP Omniback 3.5 on SAN
3. Users/groups mostly by SAM and Modiifcation by command line
4. No will try to use it.
Manoj Srivastava
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05-09-2002 02:02 PM
05-09-2002 02:02 PM
Re: SAM Quest
2 - Fileystem management and Swap via SAM generally, other 3 not via SAM.
3 - Reactivating Users. The rest happens via 3rd party software.
4 - Never use toptools.
Hope it helps
John
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05-10-2002 01:22 AM
05-10-2002 01:22 AM
Re: SAM Quest
1. cpio/tar & SAM
2.
a. lvm - always SAM
b. SAM
c. SAM
d. SAM
c. SAM
3. i do it from the command line, because SAM is slow, this task can be done from commandline.
4. iam not aware of it, i will see the link.
thanks
ravi
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05-10-2002 02:18 AM
05-10-2002 02:18 AM
Re: SAM Quest
Veritas NetBackup
2.a. LVM -------->SAM
b. Filesystem Management----->command line
c. Swap ----------->SAM
d. Disk Array Configuration ---->SAM
e. Disk Backups
3.1)changing the home directory of the user.
2)changing the user's primary group
3)Removing the user from the group
THanks
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05-10-2002 02:21 AM
05-10-2002 02:21 AM
Re: SAM Quest
2. a - Command Line
b - SAM
c - SAM
d - SAM
e - SAM
3.
a. add/remove user
b. changing user password
4.
I have used it ones but in Windows NT server, where I can get all the server information(monitoring performance). It work fine for me.
Regards
Sri
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05-10-2002 02:26 AM
05-10-2002 02:26 AM
Re: SAM Quest
1- d omniback for data
e Make_recovery for S.O
2- a-both
b-both
c-both
d-both
e-system
3- Add users, add groups
4- no
Regards,
Justo.
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05-10-2002 02:39 AM
05-10-2002 02:39 AM
Re: SAM Quest
d. Omniback
2. Do you perform the following tasks? If yes, HOW do you do them - with SAM or the system commands?
a. LVM - primarily SAM
b. Filesystem Management - primarily SAM
c. Swap - primarily SAM
d. Disk Array Configuration - command line
e. Disk Backups - command line
3. What are the top 3 - 5 tasks that you perform most often in SAM's User & Groups (UG) area? Which UG related tasks do you use system commands for instead? Any reasons? (Please differentiate between Local, NIS, NIS+ Users).
Add user
Modify user
Delete user
all local users
I use commands to clear a user's home directory on delete because the find that sam launches never completes.
4. Have you ever used the HP program Top Tools? If yes, what do you use it for? do you like it? (www.hp.com/toptools)
not yet
Pete
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05-10-2002 03:05 AM
05-10-2002 03:05 AM
Re: SAM Quest
2. a) b) c) SAM
3. For adding and removing users -- Local !! Assigning groups to users ..
4. Never used :)
--Jamni
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05-10-2002 03:17 AM
05-10-2002 03:17 AM
Re: SAM Quest
1 e- other legato + ignite
2 a-e system commands
3
delete users
add groups
add users
i use sam so i do not forget an step.
this only for local users for NIS we use vi and system commands.
4 no never used it.