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Rita C Workman
Honored Contributor

Re: SAM Quest

1. D - Omniback
2A - LVM - command line
2B - FileSystem Mgmt - command line
2C - Swap - create command line -acitvate/turn SAM
2D - DiskArray Config - command line
2E - Disk Backups - Backups via OmniBack
3. User/Group - Tend do all this via SAM, only exception
is in adjusting passwd file for ftp access/chroot.
4. Not yet.

/rcw
Danny Engelbarts
Frequent Advisor

Re: SAM Quest

1 a.

2 a. LVM - command line
2 b. Filesystem Management - command line
2 c. Swap - command line
2 d. Disk Array Configuration - haven't got one ... ;o)
2 e. Disk Backups - ignite

3 1. Adding Users (sadly none are ever removed)
3 2. Adding remote printers (That is; i add a printer one server (a) using jetadmin and when it's needed on another system (b) i use sam and add a remote printer on server a)
3 3. Occasionally some kernel config.

4. no.

Regards, Danny
Rick Garland
Honored Contributor

Re: SAM Quest

1) dump/vxdump restore/vxrestore on some systems
omniback on other systems (depends who has the license)

2) a. command line for LVM
b. command line
c. command line
d. command line or included tools with the array
e. command line or omniback GUI

3) Do not spend time in the users/groups area of SAM

4) no
Volker Borowski
Honored Contributor

Re: SAM Quest

1) d for Standardoperation / good old tar for transfers to other locations
2) a,b,c commandline -> SAM is too slow on this LVM stuff, and some options are missing
3) Create local Users
4) no

What I miss is a pretty simple monitor to show memory allocation/distribution and in-mem/swapped-out (without installing glance or something like this).

Volker
Jason VanDerMark
Trusted Contributor

Re: SAM Quest

Answers to your questions:

1. Veritas Netbackup followed by fbackup for small specialized stuff

2. Swap and LVM from sam all others from cli

3. create users and groups, but rarely, mostly do it by hand.

4. nope, never used toptools

Hope this helps.

Regards,
Jason V.
Tie two birds together, eventhough they have four wings, they cannot fly.
Jitendra_1
Trusted Contributor

Re: SAM Quest

1. What is your preferred method(s) for Backup & Recovery?
a. fbackup/frecover

2. Do you perform the following tasks? If yes, HOW do you do them - with SAM or the system commands?
a. LVM --yes
b. Filesystem Management -command line
c. Swap -command line
d. Disk Array Configuration -command line
e. Disk Backups - command line

3. What are the top 3 - 5 tasks that you perform most often in SAM's User & Groups (UG) area? Which UG related tasks do you use system commands for instead? Any reasons? (Please differentiate between Local, NIS, NIS+ Users).
Mostly local users.
adding/modifying users and groups.

4. Have you ever used the HP program Top Tools? If yes, what do you use it for? do you like it? (www.hp.com/toptools)
Not used.


Thanks
Learning is the Key!
Carlos_8
Advisor

Re: SAM Quest

1. prefer (a) but organization uses (d)
2. a. both SAM and Commands
b. command
c. command
3. Local
I use SAM for user/group creation;mod;& password reset
4. Never used it.
Matjaz Obstetar
Advisor

Re: SAM Quest

1. e) ignite, tar

2. a) SAM and command line
b) SAM and command line
c) SAM
e) command line

3. Add users and groups, modify users

4. No
To sem jaz
Edward Sedgemore
Trusted Contributor

Re: SAM Quest


1. d,a

2. yes, I perform all the following tasks. On small servers I use the CLI only, for very large servers with tons of VG's/LV's then using SAM for a,b,d is easier so I do it that way.

3. Top 3 commands in SAM UG;
- Reactivate/deactivate account
- reset password (on secure systems)
- modify security policies (on secure systems)
I use the CLI instead now for creating new users (useradd) and deleting users (userdel) as its quickier and easier to do on the CLI and look up options with their manpages.

4. No, never used top tools. Never heard of it..will investigate.
Joseph C. Denman
Honored Contributor

Re: SAM Quest

1. What is your preferred method(s) for Backup & Recovery?
HP's OmniBack II & Ignite

2. Do you perform the following tasks? If yes, HOW do you do them - with SAM or the system commands?
a. LVM commands -- both
b. Filesystem Management commands -- both
c. Swap commands -- sam
d. Disk Array Configuration -- both
e. Disk Backups -- command & Omni gui

3. What are the top 3 - 5 tasks that you perform most often in SAM's User & Groups (UG) area? Which UG related tasks do you use system commands for instead? Any reasons? (Please differentiate between Local, NIS, NIS+ Users).

Do not use SAM for UG administration. (local or NIS)

4. Have you ever used the HP program Top Tools? If yes, what do you use it for? do you like it? (www.hp.com/toptools)

Dont use...
If I had only read the instructions first??
ganesh_3
New Member

Re: SAM Quest

Hi,
1. e) Legato

2. a. LVM - Command line
b. Filesystem Management - Both
c. Swap - both
d. Disk Array Configuration - sam
e. Disk Backups -both

3. User/group creation,
Password aging
authentication
4. Not yet
Stay cool & explore
Jerry Jordak
Advisor

Re: SAM Quest

1. Other: ADSM for general backup, mk_recovery for OS backup.

2. Yes; usually do LVM and filesystem management on the command line, and Swap config through SAM. Don't have any disk arrays to configure.

3. Creating users are about all I use SAM for, and infrequently as I don't create users often. Resetting passwords is easier to do from the command line.

4. No.
John Ferrara
Frequent Advisor

Re: SAM Quest

1. d.
2. a.b.c.d. (not e. see 1.)
3. User id:creation, deletion, pw reset, reactivation.
4. No, I don't know what it can do, Yes.

* Like most everyone else, I'd like SAM to be faster and do everything that I can do from the cmd line :-)
It was working fine when I left....what did you do?
John McDen
Regular Advisor

Re: SAM Quest

1. D
2. LVM - SAM+ Commands
FS Mgt - SAM + Commands
SWAP - SAM
DISK ARRAY - Commands
DISK BACKUP - SAM + Omni Backup
3. Add/Remove Users
4. NO

John McDen
New to HP
Sandip Ghosh
Honored Contributor

Re: SAM Quest

I am using as follows:

1. a
2.a - Commands
2.b - commands
2.c - commands
2.d - NA
2.e - Scripts

3.Mostly doing through scripts or by editing the passwd and group file.

4 Never used.

Sandip
Good Luck!!!
Ricardo Bassoi
Regular Advisor

Re: SAM Quest

1.a
2.c - commands
d - SAM
e - SAM
3.Adding and removing users
4.Not yet
If you never try, never will work
MANOJ SRIVASTAVA
Honored Contributor

Re: SAM Quest

HI SAM TEAM

Here it is

1. OMNI BACK 3.5 SAN
2. LVM SAM and Command Line ( mostly command line)
FS Mgmt SAM and Command Line
SWAP SAM
Disk Array ( SAM , command Line we ahve EMC frames )
DISK BACKUP Omniback 3.5 on SAN
3. Users/groups mostly by SAM and Modiifcation by command line

4. No will try to use it.

Manoj Srivastava
John Payne_2
Honored Contributor

Re: SAM Quest

1E - Legato Networker

2 - Fileystem management and Swap via SAM generally, other 3 not via SAM.

3 - Reactivating Users. The rest happens via 3rd party software.

4 - Never use toptools.

Hope it helps

John
Spoon!!!!
V. V. Ravi Kumar_1
Respected Contributor

Re: SAM Quest

hi,

1. cpio/tar & SAM
2.
a. lvm - always SAM
b. SAM
c. SAM
d. SAM
c. SAM
3. i do it from the command line, because SAM is slow, this task can be done from commandline.
4. iam not aware of it, i will see the link.

thanks
ravi
Never Say No
T G Manikandan
Honored Contributor

Re: SAM Quest

What is your preferred method(s) for Backup & Recovery?
Veritas NetBackup

2.a. LVM -------->SAM
b. Filesystem Management----->command line
c. Swap ----------->SAM
d. Disk Array Configuration ---->SAM
e. Disk Backups

3.1)changing the home directory of the user.
2)changing the user's primary group
3)Removing the user from the group

THanks
Sritharan
Valued Contributor

Re: SAM Quest

1.e - HP Omniback

2. a - Command Line
b - SAM
c - SAM
d - SAM
e - SAM

3.
a. add/remove user
b. changing user password


4.
I have used it ones but in Windows NT server, where I can get all the server information(monitoring performance). It work fine for me.


Regards
Sri
Known is a drop...unknown is an ocean -> quote from a movie
Justo Exposito
Esteemed Contributor

Re: SAM Quest

Hi Sam Team,

1- d omniback for data
e Make_recovery for S.O
2- a-both
b-both
c-both
d-both
e-system
3- Add users, add groups
4- no

Regards,

Justo.
Help is a Beatiful word
Pete Randall
Outstanding Contributor

Re: SAM Quest

1. What is your preferred method(s) for Backup & Recovery?
d. Omniback

2. Do you perform the following tasks? If yes, HOW do you do them - with SAM or the system commands?

a. LVM - primarily SAM

b. Filesystem Management - primarily SAM
c. Swap - primarily SAM
d. Disk Array Configuration - command line
e. Disk Backups - command line

3. What are the top 3 - 5 tasks that you perform most often in SAM's User & Groups (UG) area? Which UG related tasks do you use system commands for instead? Any reasons? (Please differentiate between Local, NIS, NIS+ Users).

Add user
Modify user
Delete user
all local users
I use commands to clear a user's home directory on delete because the find that sam launches never completes.

4. Have you ever used the HP program Top Tools? If yes, what do you use it for? do you like it? (www.hp.com/toptools)

not yet

Pete
Jamni
Frequent Advisor

Re: SAM Quest

1. d) HP Omnibackup
2. a) b) c) SAM
3. For adding and removing users -- Local !! Assigning groups to users ..
4. Never used :)

--Jamni

If a man does his best, what else is there?
G. Vrijhoeven
Honored Contributor

Re: SAM Quest

Hi,

1 e- other legato + ignite
2 a-e system commands
3
delete users
add groups
add users
i use sam so i do not forget an step.
this only for local users for NIS we use vi and system commands.
4 no never used it.