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05-30-2006 03:15 AM
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05-30-2006 03:21 AM
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Re: SAN disk visible to all servers
It sounds like you don't have any zones setup on your switch and / or what ever you are using for masking (on the array) isn't configured properly.
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05-30-2006 03:23 AM
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Re: SAN disk visible to all servers
The Brocades can do zoning to limit what system sees what hardware resources. If there is no zoning in place then all systems will see all hardware resources.
Can be a management nightmare and can increase the risks that a mistake will be made. Typically a mistake caused by human error.
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05-30-2006 03:36 AM
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Re: SAN disk visible to all servers
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05-30-2006 08:52 PM
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Re: SAN disk visible to all servers
You need to do Zoning from Brocade switch level which prevents seeing other Storage components level. This will avoid discovering unwanted targets to be visible to the host. I believe you have open fabric in your SAN environment.
You haven't mentioned what type of storage you use?. Every storage vendor provider provides masking softwares to restricts the devices to be accessed by individual host.
Review both zoning and masking ASAP and implement them.
Regards
Sathish
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05-31-2006 12:41 AM
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Re: SAN disk visible to all servers
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05-31-2006 01:25 AM
05-31-2006 01:25 AM
SolutionI think the usually you'll assigne one zone per HPA. And you definitely should have two HPA's per server. This is for redundency.
However, maximizing your HPA connections on your server is how you overcome any bottlenecks. Its the old comparison of a fire hose and a garden hose. The fire hose can deliver more water.
But be consistent with one zone per HPA since this will still give you unique HW addresses.
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05-31-2006 01:35 AM
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Re: SAN disk visible to all servers
You are definitely correct. The management of disks presented to systems needs to be throughly documented and kept up to date - always!
If you pvcreate a disk that is in use for another system you are correct, you have a problem.
As a last line of defense, ensure the backups are good. If the unthinkable happens you will at least be able to restore.
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05-31-2006 01:45 AM
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Re: SAN disk visible to all servers
On the HP Virtual Arrays it's licensed per terabyte of disk ($10k / Year if I recall) and called Secure Path (not to be mistake with Secure Path Manager).
On the HP EVA arrays, there's a little button that says, "Present".
You are probably seeing the LUNs because your storage team has determined to use Port Zoning instead of WWN (world wide name) zoning on their switches. It's technically more secure as you can spoof a WWN, but you can't spoof a physical port. It's also easier to manage.
On the other hand, it means that your host sees the array, all of it.
In our case, we have Compaq EMAs, (with presentation management), HP EVAs (with pres. mgmt.) and our VAs.. without, because it's just too expensive. So, you have to find ways around it.
Ways around it.
If the array is Active/Passive, as opposed to Active/Active. Secure Path Manager will mask all of the additional paths. However, be careful; when you install it, it will change all of your disk paths the first time, so vgexport to a map file, and re-import later.
Map your LUNs. For our VAs, we keep a spreadsheet, a map of which LUNs point to which hardware path. There is a defined hardware path (after the FC adapter) that you can find in an ioscan.
Two useful references for understanding this are:
http://www.hp.com/hpbooks/prentice/chapters/0130102229.pdf
The other link is broken, I'll attach it.
Also of note, if it's a new LUN, on an ioscan, the newest LUN will have the highest instance number (column I), look for your two (for single HBA on your host) or four (for dual HBAs on your host)
Good luck,
Don
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05-31-2006 01:50 AM
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05-31-2006 01:56 AM
05-31-2006 01:56 AM
Re: SAN disk visible to all servers
What kind of Hitachi Array are you using? If it's anywhere below an HDS9980 - then it is possible you do not have yet LUN security(Presentation security) via the concept of HostGroups -- so that your SAN zones will consist of the Switch Port(s) and the Server's HBAs that have access to that port(s). LDEVS/LUNS are presented on older HDS Arrays (and HP XP too) on a per CHiP port basis going to the switches. So that explains why all servers on a zone sees all LUNS that are presented.
A spreadsheet, and tools to ascertain on a server which LUNs it should own and religiously maintaining it is the key here.
Also, you may want to move to VxVM as it offers better avoidance on overwriting LUNs that are already in use elsewhere.
Keep your Storage Admin --
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05-31-2006 02:01 AM
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05-31-2006 02:05 AM
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Re: SAN disk visible to all servers
HDS9960 == XP512.
I don't think even HP was able to implement the concept of HostGroups for heterogenous connections and LUN security on this model.
It started I think with the XP128 (9980V) and the XP1024 upwards (HDS 9980/9990 -> XP12000).
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