Survey says....What would you like to see in the next version of HP-UX?

[Duncan Edmonstone]

Martin,

You will get your wish - all the good features of TruCluster (clustered file system, single system image) will make their way into ServiceGuard over the next 2 years...

As for me, I'd agree with what everyone has already said:

1) Dynamic kernel changes
2) Dynamic (no reboot) patching
3) VxFS (or AdvFS) for all filesystems
4) MirrorDisk/UX as part of base OS

To this I would add:

5) APA (NIC teaming) as part of the base OS
6) Its about time that HP started re-investing in LVM - features that need to come if they don't want to end up completely 'in hoc' to veritas:
- True dynamic multi-pathing
- No hard coded limits (max pe per pv particularly)
- More fully featured cluster LVM (might come with the TruCluster technology).
7) But by far the biggest thing that HP can do to improve HPUX right now is change the FC/SCSI hardware adressing scheme! The current hotch-potch of three addressing schemes (volume set addressing, peripheral device addressing and logical unit addressing) is a nightmare to use, and pretty much whenever you change your SAN config you end up with a completely new hardware path and set of device files. Why can't this be based on something that I can configure (like a lookup based on WWN, target and LUN)

Interesting thread though... keep them coming...

HTH

Duncan

[Michael Steele_2]

lsof, tcpdump, openssh and any other GNU product from The Utah or Wisconsin HPUX porting center that are now basic tools in a S.A.'s toolbox.

http://hpux.cict.fr/hppd/hpux/Sysadmin/lsof-4.64/

[Duncan Edmonstone]

John,

The reason that OnLine JFS is free on AIX is cos IBM own the code... it therefore doesn't cost them much to give away...

HP's OnLine JFS is of course just Veritas VxFS, and every time HP sell it, thay have to give most of the cost of a license straight to Veritas. You can see how this would quickly eat into margins if it were given away... HP would still need to pay Veritas for every copy sold.

Of course HP now own their own journalling file system (Tru64's AdvFS), and I think we can expect this to become available (maybe for free) as an alternative to OnLine JFS at some point in the next 2 years... its' certainly a pre-requisite for a TruCluster.

Cheers

Duncan

[Michael Steele_2]

I'd like administrative control of disks back. Proprietary hands off or void your support contract threats from disk array admins has created this sub culture of disk array admins that has spread onto every platform and worse, has seriously cut into my importance. It takes a committee meeting just to build a volume group. And also added more people into change management at a time when change management was already too big.

Out of curiosity, can anyone beat 18 people in change management?

[Tim D Fulford]

I'd like to see

LVM:
o much higher limits on disk sizes (max PE per PV)
o More LVs per VG (currently in 11.0 255)
o Able to mirror kB stripes
o Able to move kB stripe extends from PV to PV
o have a higher PV's per VG.
- the above would make migration to new server or new disk subsystem far easier

Kernel:
o Truly dynamic kernel (mentioned a few times)

MC/ServiceGuard:
o Mirored memory etc such that failovers would not need to interupt the service

That is all I can think of now!

Tim

[Geoff Wild]

Good answers everyone - about points - I'm only going to award 5 points per person - not post.

Well, at least I'm going to try :)

Feel free to post multiple posts - just don't take the 0 points the wrong way :)

Rgds...Geoff

BTW - The reason I need to increase /stand?
First of - I inherited the box - some boxes at this site were built by previous admins...Second - prereq for 11i is 112MB min for /stand. Our standard is 128MB (but I'm thinking of increasing to 256MB).

[Michael Steele_2]

Use ignite make_tape_recovery and restore via advanced install options. Because /dev/vg00/lvol1, 2 and 3 are all contiguous. /stand is lvol1.

[twang]

1. tune kernel parameters without reboot
2. all online JFS functions
3. system performance statistic like oracle's v$sysstat

[KCS_1]

Hi,Geoff
Thanks for opening this thread.

I would like to see managing tools( or script) on hpux,such as the 'nikel' for looking at the event logs and status of H/W more easily if,it's available. Include of above mentioned things as well.

Contratulation! got on a new hat of HOGWATT!



Have a good day!

[Fragon]

Hi,
1. I think a x86 based HP-UX is necessary! Many people need it;
2. Security enhancement, for example ,a firewall integrated, SSH default;
3. Of course, dynamic kernel parameters!

-ux