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08-04-2005 04:39 AM
08-04-2005 04:39 AM
Your opinion on HBA performance data you would like to see
HP is seeking your opinion on what performance data would be most useful to return in tools like sar or kmetrics for Host Bus Adapters (HBA) on HP-UX systems?
- max throughput
- number of IOs per second
- utilization (% theoritical max throughput)
- average IO queueing/response times
- other?
Feel free to add any comments as to why/how you would use these performance data and which perf tool you use the most. Thank you in advance,
Marie-Noelle (points to be assigned!)
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08-04-2005 04:53 AM
08-04-2005 04:53 AM
Re: Your opinion on HBA performance data you would like to see
i.e. like this:
for platterl in /dev/rdsk/c5t0d1 /dev/rdsk/c7t0d0; do timex dd if=${platterl} of=/dev/null bs=1024k count=200 & done
gathering wio should be done with real application load, because it'll always be close to 100% for a dd (dd basically does nothing but wait for data to push to /dev/null, so what else should I expect)
It's much more interesting combined with aqueue/avserv values under regular database load.
sar -d 3 1 during 2GB dd's over two adapters.
18:46:26 device %busy avque r+w/s blks/s avwait avserv
18:46:29 c1t15d0 2.33 0.50 4 24 2.85 14.75
c3t15d0 2.33 0.50 3 21 3.42 12.93
c7t0d0 98.34 0.50 466 238820 4.92 2.11
c5t0d1 98.67 0.50 475 243072 5.00 2.07
If I worked at a research or CGI site, I'd probably go dig into the performance values and get closer to what marketing people call 'line rate', maybe expecting 300-350MB/s read + 350MB/s write at the same time[*], but where I am the performance requirements are more targeted towards database throughput, which is largely achieved by striping and whatever.
[*] everyone who's about to say these numbers are never achieved in real situations, please just don't. a five year old octane2 could handle well above >600MB/s. :)
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08-04-2005 05:05 AM
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Re: Your opinion on HBA performance data you would like to see
I'd like to see the tools provided for normal disk performance ported to work with data we have to use fcmsutil to get now.
A full toolset is really needed. Everything you list and more.
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08-04-2005 05:12 AM
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Re: Your opinion on HBA performance data you would like to see
Olivier
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08-04-2005 08:45 AM
08-04-2005 08:45 AM
Re: Your opinion on HBA performance data you would like to see
IO/s read
IO/s write
kB/s read
kB/s write
IO read latency
IO write latency
port queue (host side)
% utilisation **
IO/s errors/resends/corrupt/CRC ...
** I would like to see % utilisation, but it would depend upon how it is calculated. We use really quite (probably too small) small IO's, so the HBA is most likely to be limited by the max IO/s which may well only be 10% of the max kB/s limit. So I would like a % util calculated like so (if at all possible)
[total time - ammount of time HBA is idle]/total time
The idle time of the HBA must be time that IO could be placed on the HBA. In the case of IO/s limited systems the HBA will have times when it could theoretically process IO, but is in reality unable to as the OS/card is blocked performing other functions/context switching. I guess that this would mean the %util would need to be calculated from the OS point of view, as that would probably be the limiting factor... but there may be better men/women than me who know more
Regards
Tim
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08-04-2005 09:37 AM
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08-10-2005 08:19 PM
08-10-2005 08:19 PM
Re: Your opinion on HBA performance data you would like to see
Just a suggestion
Regards
Tim
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08-10-2005 08:29 PM
08-10-2005 08:29 PM
Re: Your opinion on HBA performance data you would like to see
I feel error counts in terms of single bit failures if any should also be included
Regards
Mahesh
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08-11-2005 02:43 AM
08-11-2005 02:43 AM
Re: Your opinion on HBA performance data you would like to see
hand if we are talking HBA so means there
should be a SAN env and We have to look
SAN side...Then for EVA i also prefer to use
Hp command view EVAperf also gives many
important statistics like;
Arrays
Arrays controllers
Host connections
host port statistics
physical status
port status
.
.
just a suggestion as Tim
Greetings from Turkey,
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08-11-2005 02:50 AM
08-11-2005 02:50 AM
Re: Your opinion on HBA performance data you would like to see
HBAs are not only for SAN, there are also WAN adapters (LAN, X.25, ATM, ...). So your reply is not valid for all HBAs.
Marie-Noelle
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08-11-2005 04:46 AM
08-11-2005 04:46 AM
Re: Your opinion on HBA performance data you would like to see
I would also like to see the I/O errors with some information to troubleshoot where that error is originating.
thanks
Devesh
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08-11-2005 04:28 PM
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