connect linux share using mickysoft NETBEUI protokol

['chris']

hi

is it possible to connect linux samba share
using mickysoft NETBEUI protokol ?
I mean to connect without TCP/IP protocol.

kind regards
chris

[Steven E. Protter]

Shalom,

NETBEUI is windows only. You need TCP/IP.

SEP

[Danny Petterson - DK]

Im quite sure it should be possible - look in the archives at samba.org. Google is, as always, also your friend:

http://www.google.dk/search?sourceid=navclient&hl=da&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGLJ_daDK206DK206&q=netbeui+linux

[Stuart Browne]

Ok, simple question. What on earth are you intending to use that can only speak NetBEUI ?!?

Even Windows 3.x (all flavours) could speak TCP/IP & NetBIOS happily!

['chris']

@Stuart Browne

I have a boot floppy with NETBEUI without TCP/IP.
I can connect all Windows shares,
but cannot connect to the Samba shares.

perhaps Samba version 3.0.24 doesn't support SMB or NETBIOS over any other protocols than TCP/IP.

greetings
chris

[Stuart Browne · Accepted solution]

That's correct. Samba only supports transports over TCP/IP.

There have been (in the past) some unsupported patches to Samba to allow native NetBEUI, but I've nver used any, and wouldn't recomend any (given the newest one I saw was for a 2.x series Samba!).

It shouldn't be that hard to find a TCP/IP stack for your boot floppy.

['chris']

yep, I have done already a TCP/IP boot floppy and it seems to work well.
I was only wondering about NETBEUI and SAMBA.

[Rob Leadbeater]

Hi Chris,

Like quite a few others, I'm curious as to why you'd want to do this...?

Cheers,

Rob

['chris']

hi Rob

I was using GHOST boot floppy to "ghost" via NETBEUI,
so I could suck an image from a windows share without TCP/IP.
I didn't need a really server, TCP/IP, DHCP etc.
ghost server was only a simple workstation with NETBEUI and share where an image was installed, NETBEUI boot floppy and that's it.
it was very simple and comfortable, particularly as a home user.
my friends were very content with this solution.

now I need a mobile ghost server.
I was trying to use DS106j from Synology:

http://www.synology.de/en/disk-station-ds106j-overview.html

as a ghost server.
it uses SAMBA for shares.

I was trying to use the same NETBEUI boot floppy and of course,
it didn't work !

now I'm using TCP/IP boot floppy and it works excellently.

how already said, I was wondering about NETBEUI and SAMBA.
everyone is surprised, perhaps nobody tried this...

p.s
don't worry, in the business I'm using a correct ghost serve !

greetings
chris

[Stuart Browne]

From http://www.math.temple.edu/computing/samba.html :

According to a posting by Christopher Hertel of the Samba Team, "NetBEUI maps the NetBIOS API to its own protocol (which is very close to the NetBIOS format). To make NetBEUI work on a Linux box, you would need to implement the NetBEUI layer. That's not too hard, but the next step would be to get smbclient (assuming you want client capabilities) to talk to the interface to NetBEUI. Currently, all of Samba talks directly to TCP/UDP/IP".

and

NetBEUI -IBM first introduced the "NetBIOS Extended User Interface" (NetBEUI) in 1985 as an extension to the NetBIOS standard. Unlike NetBIOS, NetBEUI is a protocol, not a standard. It is also not routable, so traffic on one side of a router will be unable to communicate with the other side. Understanding NetBEUI is not essential to deciphering SMB; however it helps to point out that it is not the same as NetBIOS and to improve your score in trivia at parties. NetBEUI was originally referred to by Microsoft as "NBF", or "The Windows NT NetBEUI Frame protocol driver". It is not often heard from these days.

--
When I was helping maintain Windows (NT, WFW, etc) 3.x networks, NetBEUI was one of those things you installed, along with IPX. TCP/IP wasn't that widely used as a protocol for small networks.

Now days, a small network will use TCP/IP for it's simplicity.

I'm pretty sure that most of the people on this forum would no longer maintain IPX networks (except for a few of the older Novell people).

Even Microsoft doesn't install IPX or NetBEUI protocols by default (in fact, XP doesn't even offer NetBEUI on the default installation media at all!).

['chris']

and here some interesting links to this topic:

http://network-linux.blogspot.com/2006/11/obtaining-netbeui-stack-for-linux.html

http://network-linux.blogspot.com/2006/12/using-linux-netbeui-software.html