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12-22-2010 01:47 AM
12-22-2010 01:47 AM
Linux Mentor Wanted
For instance, I'm currently struggling to create an account where I can manage config files over FTP.
Is there anyone out there with some Christmas spirit that would help me out?
Cheers, Rob.
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12-22-2010 02:52 AM
12-22-2010 02:52 AM
Re: Linux Mentor Wanted
What's a "VM server"?
There is a whole Linux forum, you know:
http://forums.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/familyhome.do?familyId=118
> [...] to create an account where I can
> manage config files over FTP.
I don't know what that means. Some coherent
explanation of your actual goal(s)/problem(s)
may be needed before you can get much help
from anywhere.
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12-22-2010 03:09 AM
12-22-2010 03:09 AM
Re: Linux Mentor Wanted
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_machine
As for the rest of your response, if you insist in constantly flaming me, at least make it relevant. These stupid replies are best left to COV, not here where some of us are trying to get some _real_ work done.
Rob.
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12-22-2010 03:18 AM
12-22-2010 03:18 AM
Re: Linux Mentor Wanted
would be pointless to mention that "I'm
currently struggling" doesn't say much about
what you did, or what happened when you did
it.)
Irregardful, if anyone else can explain what
the actual goal(s)/problem(s) here were, I'd
still be interested.
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12-22-2010 06:59 AM
12-22-2010 06:59 AM
Re: Linux Mentor Wanted
http://mattgemmell.com/2008/12/08/what-have-you-tried
As for your more general question, forget what you know of VMS when you're learning Unix. That way lies pain and frustration. Unix is a very different beast from VMS, and your knowledge of VMS will largely detract from your efforts to learn and use Unix.
http://www.debian.org/doc/
Debian has various support resources, including IRC:
http://www.debian.org/support
Learn bash or another shell. Here's a bash scripting guide:
http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/abs-guide.pdf
Yes, I use both VMS and Unix. More Unix these days, but that's another discussion. And no, not Debian Linux.
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12-22-2010 07:18 AM
12-22-2010 07:18 AM
Re: Linux Mentor Wanted
That fact of the matter is that I'm not really looking for individual answers to specific problems. I'm looking for someone to hand-hold me through the whole learning process.
At this point I'm sure lots of people will be screaming Books, Courses, Online Tutorials, etc, etc.
Agreed - and it's what I've been doing for a few years now. However, I'd really like to bring my capabilities up to a decent standard, and the only way I'm going to be able to do that with $0 finances is to find a virtual Mentor.
Rob.
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12-22-2010 08:40 AM
12-22-2010 08:40 AM
Re: Linux Mentor Wanted
I know how I'd approach this (and am working through the roughly 32 gigabytes of training materials - reading podcasts and Stanford and other courses - that's resident on the reader, and the rest of the materials resident on the server), but that's very clearly not the path you're seeking here, and clearly not how you approach your questions.
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12-22-2010 01:24 PM
12-22-2010 01:24 PM
Re: Linux Mentor Wanted
ITRC can be your mentor.
Post specific questions here and tap into the hundreds of minds who contribute here daily.
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12-23-2010 01:25 AM
12-23-2010 01:25 AM
Re: Linux Mentor Wanted
I'm glad I don't fall into that bracket. I've spent the last 5 years teaching someone in South America how to go from a HTML GUI Editor to Notepad to JavaScript to Google/Facebook API's, and beyond. I've never once spoken to or met the person, probably never will, and expect nothing in return. All that I asked is that they were happy and willing to learn something new.
I know it's only been a day, but it's such a pitty there's nobody here that seems to fit that profile.
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12-23-2010 01:30 AM
12-23-2010 01:30 AM
Re: Linux Mentor Wanted
Hopefully someone here can help?
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01-05-2011 01:29 AM
01-05-2011 01:29 AM
Re: Linux Mentor Wanted
I can help you? what specifically is your problem. To create an account you need to used the useradd command or some distro's provide an interactive adduser script.
I can help you with basics. One of the best free linux resources out there is TLPD project. See :http://tldp.org/ . There are lots of documents out there that might help you :) rather than me writing things out in email.
Linux/unix design is different from VMS , The famous unix abstraction is everything is either a file or hack :P.
When I was a student I used to create small linux distros for fun I can help you if you need help in that direction as well.
Truly Evil
Lucifer Megacruel.
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01-05-2011 03:05 AM
01-05-2011 03:05 AM
Re: Linux Mentor Wanted
I'll gladly help :-)
use the email in my profile.
Cheers
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01-05-2011 05:33 AM
01-05-2011 05:33 AM
Re: Linux Mentor Wanted
Have you tried to find an e-mail address in
anyone else's forum profile?
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01-05-2011 06:36 AM
01-05-2011 06:36 AM
Re: Linux Mentor Wanted
Since I did not get time to reply in length the first time replied, I will reply at length this time.
First thing you need to do is pick your own linux distribution. According to the package manager ( ie the program used to install binaries )used we can roughly classify them into
(a) RPM based distros (b) Debian based distros ( c) Slackware based ( .tgz ) ( d) Gentoo based or Custom Linux distros.
There are lot of distro's out there each with its own merits and demerits. I prefer Slackware because it is the most technically challenging and customizable distro out there. The problem with Slackware is that its package management is not that great. But that's okay since you use Slackware, you are expected to be nerdy and you know how to figure things out your own way :) .
How do I get help in a Linux system ?
First you to do is to read the man pages for any command. Make sure that you do a quick man before you post anything in any community site or newsgroup. A good number of people want to prove they are â eliteâ , so if you ask questions when info is directly there in manual, you are likely to get flamed .
At shell type
$man
to access the man page of a particular command. To get help on adduser type
$man adduser
Many commands/utilities come with a brief help as well. Generally â help will give you sufficient info
eg
$gcc â help
to get help on gcc. Alternatively you can try info and appropos commands as well. Also read HOWTOs and guides when possible.
What are the commonly used commands?
ls â list files { similar to vms dir }
cp-- copy { similar to vms copy }
chdir â change directory { similar to vms set default }
mkdir â create directory { similar to vms create/directory}
cat â see contents of a file { similar to type in vms }
mount â mount a filesystem similar to mount in vms
eg mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy should mount the floppy.
You should note that your root directory is denoted by / . Other file systems are mounted as a part of a root file system . If you do a
$ls /
you should see /dev /etc /bin /usr
/dev â directory containing special files that represent devices . Remember Linux provides the abstraction that everything is a file. Eg filling a floopy device with zeros
$dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/fd0
fd0 is a file representing the floppy device.
/etc - basically contains config files
/bin â contains system binaries
/usr â contains usr binaries and libraries . Play around a bit and to get the feel of things
How do I install software in Linux ?
This is distro specific and varies differently in different linux distros. I prefer compiling from sources.
For debain based systems its basically
dpk -i
if you have aptitude installed you can do
apt get install
How to master shell scripting ?
VMS has DCL , but Linux supports many shells bash, c shell , korn shell and lot of other shells eg :fish for instance . But BASH ( bourne again shell is the most popular). You can even roll your own shell , it a'int that hard :) . There are documents in TLDP that might help.See tldp.org
I hope that I am of some use to you :)
Truly Evil
Lucifer Megacruel
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01-06-2011 01:55 AM
01-06-2011 01:55 AM
Re: Linux Mentor Wanted
ratkinson at tbs-ltd dot co dot uk
I can then detail some of the problems I'm experiencing.
Cheers, Rob.