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09-25-2000 11:09 AM
09-25-2000 11:09 AM
Solved! Go to Solution.
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10-24-2000 08:50 PM
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Re: Mandrake - root account network login
There is a reason you su to root. I know it is an annoyance but get used to it.
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10-24-2000 11:39 PM
10-24-2000 11:39 PM
Re: Mandrake - root account network login
(it's quite easy with most sniffers nowadays to set a "trigger condition" of "user logged on with root", then watch the next few packets to determine the password -- once set, this little demon waits patiently for "root" to come strolling by...)
That said, even using "su -" via telnet SUFFERS FROM THE SAME FLAW! "telnet" data is sent completely "in the clear", so now all the would-be interloper has to do is "sniff" for the case where "user typed 'su' at a command prompt" and capture the resulting password. Technically no more difficult than the above, but functionally just a little bit more difficult [recognizing that "su" was at a command prompt and not "part of" some other input]
If you REALLY MUST log on as root from a remote location, head on over to openssh and/or ssh.org -- there are free and low-cost versions of the "secure shell" [ssh] that allow "root" logins from remote consoles. Essentially, the "secure" version uses SSL technology to encrypt the data stream, so even if a sniffer is employed, the data stream itself is garbage and (so far) exceptionally difficult to "crack".
[sorry I don't have URLS handy -- but any decent search engine will give you more than you could possibly deal with...]
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10-24-2000 11:40 PM
10-24-2000 11:40 PM
Re: Mandrake - root account network login
(it's quite easy with most sniffers nowadays to set a "trigger condition" of "user logged on with root", then watch the next few packets to determine the password -- once set, this little demon waits patiently for "root" to come strolling by...)
That said, even using "su -" via telnet SUFFERS FROM THE SAME FLAW! "telnet" data is sent completely "in the clear", so now all the would-be interloper has to do is "sniff" for the case where "user typed 'su' at a command prompt" and capture the resulting password. Technically no more difficult than the above, but functionally just a little bit more difficult [recognizing that "su" was at a command prompt and not "part of" some other input]
If you REALLY MUST log on as root from a remote location, head on over to openssh and/or ssh.org -- there are free and low-cost versions of the "secure shell" [ssh] that allow "root" logins from remote consoles. Essentially, the "secure" version uses SSL technology to encrypt the data stream, so even if a sniffer is employed, the data stream itself is garbage and (so far) exceptionally difficult to "crack".
[sorry I don't have URLS handy -- but any decent search engine will give you more than you could possibly deal with...]
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10-24-2000 11:40 PM
10-24-2000 11:40 PM
Re: Mandrake - root account network login
(it's quite easy with most sniffers nowadays to set a "trigger condition" of "user logged on with root", then watch the next few packets to determine the password -- once set, this little demon waits patiently for "root" to come strolling by...)
That said, even using "su -" via telnet SUFFERS FROM THE SAME FLAW! "telnet" data is sent completely "in the clear", so now all the would-be interloper has to do is "sniff" for the case where "user typed 'su' at a command prompt" and capture the resulting password. Technically no more difficult than the above, but functionally just a little bit more difficult [recognizing that "su" was at a command prompt and not "part of" some other input]
If you REALLY MUST log on as root from a remote location, head on over to openssh and/or ssh.org -- there are free and low-cost versions of the "secure shell" [ssh] that allow "root" logins from remote consoles. Essentially, the "secure" version uses SSL technology to encrypt the data stream, so even if a sniffer is employed, the data stream itself is garbage and (so far) exceptionally difficult to "crack".
[sorry I don't have URLS handy -- but any decent search engine will give you more than you could possibly deal with...]
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10-24-2000 11:40 PM
10-24-2000 11:40 PM
Re: Mandrake - root account network login
(it's quite easy with most sniffers nowadays to set a "trigger condition" of "user logged on with root", then watch the next few packets to determine the password -- once set, this little demon waits patiently for "root" to come strolling by...)
That said, even using "su -" via telnet SUFFERS FROM THE SAME FLAW! "telnet" data is sent completely "in the clear", so now all the would-be interloper has to do is "sniff" for the case where "user typed 'su' at a command prompt" and capture the resulting password. Technically no more difficult than the above, but functionally just a little bit more difficult [recognizing that "su" was at a command prompt and not "part of" some other input]
If you REALLY MUST log on as root from a remote location, head on over to openssh and/or ssh.org -- there are free and low-cost versions of the "secure shell" [ssh] that allow "root" logins from remote consoles. Essentially, the "secure" version uses SSL technology to encrypt the data stream, so even if a sniffer is employed, the data stream itself is garbage and (so far) exceptionally difficult to "crack".
[sorry I don't have URLS handy -- but any decent search engine will give you more than you could possibly deal with...]
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10-24-2000 11:42 PM
10-24-2000 11:42 PM
Re: Mandrake - root account network login
(I kept getting some sort of wierd "sendmail failed -- got response of 'we don't relay'" error message) Sorry for the dupes -- I really thought they didn't actually "send"...