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Re: AMDS won't start on a VAX V7.3

 
Zia_Ahmad
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AMDS won't start on a VAX V7.3

I am having problems with one of the nodes in a four node VAXcluster {Sigh}
A set verify and invocation yields ...
.....
NOTE that this works on the other nodes in the Cluster.

$ !
$ RUN AMDS$SYSTEM:AMDS$RMCP

Copyright (c) 1995 Digital Equipment Corporation. All rights reserved.
%AMDS-I-RMSTART, starting Data Provider processing for this node
%AMDS-I-LOADSECDB, loading security database

This procedure has given up trying to start/stop a port
to the datalink. Please ensure your datalink device is
in working order.
%AMDS-E-RMUNSUCCESS, Data Provider startup unsuccessful
%SYSTEM-F-DEVOFFLINE, device is not in configuration or not available
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Arch_Muthiah
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Re: AMDS won't start on a VAX V7.3

Zia,

As per HP doc, AMDS does not recognize some LAN adapters. When AMDS starts, if it does not recognize the LAN adapter in your system, you will receive "%SYSTEM-F-DEVOFFLINE, device is not in configuration or not available"

You can try this using this commands...
@SYS$STARTUP:AMDS$STARTUP START and
@SYS$STARTUP:AMDS$STARTUP STOP

So please check your name of LAN adaptor and make sure it has been assigned to the logical name AMDS$DEVICE in the AMDS$SYSTEM:AMDS$LOGICALS.COM file.

Edith this file and make sure you have correct value assigned for few of logicals, ex:
AMDS$DEVICE should be assigned the correct lan_adaptor.
It can be EIA0, EIBO, EWA0 or whatever you have, depends on you VAX OpenVMS Version

Please go thru this link under "2.2 Logical LAN Support"

And other logical is MDS$COMM_READS, this controls the number of requests for data (read operations) queued to the data link, HP recommends this be 2 or more.


Archunan
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Archie
Zia_Ahmad
Occasional Advisor

Re: AMDS won't start on a VAX V7.3

I had tried this before.
Here's the anamoly that I notice in the cluster....
Amds$device points to fxb0 [on all the other nodes in the cluster]. When I look at ncp all the lines are mfa-1[fddi]
except the node [i am having problems] which
is mfa-0
I tried defining fxa0 as the amds$device without any success.
the amds$read* is at 15
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Arch_Muthiah
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Re: AMDS won't start on a VAX V7.3

Zia,

Yes, it is definitely because of this LAN device problem.

can you go thru this link under "2.2 Logical LAN Support", it tells about LAN device failover.

http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/products/availman/5929rel_notes_v73-2a.txt

btw, have you tried this cmd
@SYS$STARTUP:AMDS$STARTUP START,
was it successfull? or you got the same error?

Archunan
Regards
Archie
Volker Halle
Honored Contributor

Re: AMDS won't start on a VAX V7.3

Zia,

welcome to the ITRC OpenVMS forum.

The easiest way to check, which LAN devices are available in your OpenVMS system is via SDA:

$ ANAL/SYS
SDA> SHOW LAN

This will give you a list of all LAN devices and the protocols (Clients) running on those devices. AMDS will show up as ... 802E 08-00-2B-80-48 ...

Please check the value of the logical AMDS$DEVICE in the running system, after you've tried to start DECamds, to make sure it's correctly defined. FXA0 (DEMFA) is in the list of devices accepted by AMDS (see AMDS$LOGICALS.COM)

I seem to vaguely remember a problem with multiple AMDS$LOGICALS.COM files in different directories...


Archunan,

Logical LAN support (LLx devices) is not available on OpenVMS VAX, so no need to worry about it.

Volker.
Ian Miller.
Honored Contributor

Re: AMDS won't start on a VAX V7.3

you are correct in noticing mfa-1 is fxb0 and mfa-0 is fxa0. This suggests a hardware or configuration difference with this node. AMDS$DEVICE should be defined as fxa0 (note no : used in the device name).

Volker has given the command already to determine what protcols are running on which lan interfaces. Can you report the results.
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Zia_Ahmad
Occasional Advisor

Re: AMDS won't start on a VAX V7.3

On the working node:
-- FXB Unit Summary 5-DEC-2005 12:23:17 --

UCB UCB Addr Fmt Value Client State
--- -------- --- ----- ------ -----------
FXB0 D7BE5DC0
FXB3 D7C81A80 Eth 60-04 LAT 0015 Strtn,Uniq,Strtd
FXB4 D82A5240 Eth 60-03 DECNET 0017 Strtn,Len,Uniq,Strtd
FXB384 D7C86000 802E 08-00-2B-80-48 AMDS 0015 Strtn,Uniq,Strtd

Press RETURN for more.
SDA> spa
_SYSTEM> show log amds$device
"AMDS$DEVICE" = "FXB0" (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE)_SYSTEM>
NCP>show known line

Known Line Volatile Summary as of 5-DEC-2005 12:25:28

Line State

MFA-1 on

On the NON-WORKING node:
AN Data Structures
-------------------
LSB address = D7BE0C80
Device state = 4013 Inited,Run,Timer

-- FXA Unit Summary 5-DEC-2005 12:27:02 --

UCB UCB Addr Fmt Value Client State
--- -------- --- ----- ------ -----------
FXA0 D7BE0980
FXA3 D8266C80 Eth 60-03 DECNET 0017 Strtn,Len,Uniq,Strtd
FXA5 D8267440 Eth 08-00 IP 0015 Strtn,Uniq,Strtd
FXA7 D82687C0 Eth 08-06 ARP 0015 Strtn,Uniq,Strtd

Press RETURN for more.
SDA> spa

_SYSTEM> mcr ncp show known line

Known Line Volatile Summary as of 5-DEC-2005 12:27:48

Line State

MFA-0 on
_SYSTEM> !*** and here's something strange **
show log amds$device
"AMDS$DEVICE" = "FXA0" (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE)

@sys$startup:amds$startup start

This procedure has given up trying to start/stop a port
to the datalink. Please ensure your datalink device is
in working order.
%AMDS-E-RMUNSUCCESS, Data Provider startup unsuccessful
%SYSTEM-F-DEVOFFLINE, device is not in configuration or not available

show log *amds$device*
"AMDS$DEVICE" = "FXB0" <----- ??
in the file amds$logicals amds$device is defined as FXA0

A confused soul :)

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Arch_Muthiah
Honored Contributor

Re: AMDS won't start on a VAX V7.3

Zia,

Volker post says...
< I seem to vaguely remember a problem with < multiple AMDS$LOGICALS.COM files in
< different directories...

Make sure you don't have multiple AMDS$LOGICALS.COM files.... Also, before excuting @sys$startup:amds$startup start, try run @AMDS$LOGICALS.COM procedure.

Archunan
Regards
Archie
Arch_Muthiah
Honored Contributor

Re: AMDS won't start on a VAX V7.3

Zia,

have looked into sys$startup:amds$startup ?

Archunan
Regards
Archie
Zia_Ahmad
Occasional Advisor

Re: AMDS won't start on a VAX V7.3

Found the problem {Duh} amd$system:amds$logicals kept changing amds$device to fxa0! This file is does not equate to Sys$startup:amds$logicals.com !

Thanks for all the suggestions and help.
Happy Holidays - Zia
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Ian Miller.
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Re: AMDS won't start on a VAX V7.3

previous versions of AMDS had files in different place to current. This may explain.
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Jan van den Ende
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Re: AMDS won't start on a VAX V7.3

Zia,

to thank those who helped you:

http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/helptips.do?#33

Proost.

Have one on me.

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