Creating a queue on an NTY device

[Chaim Budnick]

Is any special processor required for creating a printer queue on an NTY device?

I am looking at one of our customer systems and I see several queues which are defined on NTY devices and working fine, and a show queue/full does not show any special processor?

Thanks

Chaim

[Ian Miller.]

An NTY device looks like a serial port so no particular symbiont needed.

[Chaim Budnick]

Thanks!

And what about a TNA port?

Chaim

[Bojan Nemec · Accepted solution]

Chaim,

It should be same as NTY. No special processors needed.

Bojan

[Chaim Budnick]

Thanks!

So basically this makes obsolete the LPD and TELNET symbionts which were required way back when I was doing VMS work (I just recently got back into VMS after 4 years in the MS world).

Chaim

[Bojan Nemec]

Chaim,

This is partialy true. The "standard" SYS$SYSTEM:PRTSMB.EXE processor allocates the printer device. The device is allocated until the symbiont runs (STOP/NEXT stop the symbiont). The SYS$SYSTEM:LATSYM.EXE processor introduced that the device is allocated only for the duration of the job. This is needed when one printer is used from more than one computer. There is a rudimental queue on the printer server (or printer itself) which blocks simultaneous jobs. This queue works on connections. When a connection is established all others are blocked.
So depends on yours environment if you need TELNET or LPD symbionts or you dont need them.

Bojan

[Antoniov.]

I'm with Bojan,
for example with tcpip processor you can supply IP address and you don't need create a TNA port before starting queue.

Antonio Vigliotti

[Jan van den Ende]

Small supplement to Antonio:

You need the IP address (or, preferably, a DNS name that tranlates to an IP address) _AND_ the portnumber at the printer (for HP printers that will be port 9100; other brands, look at their documentation)
(partial) queue init syntax:
... /ON=prt1.our-domain:9100 ... (or, of course, /AUTOSTART_ON= etc)

hth

Cheers.

Have one on me.

Jan

[Martin Vorlaender]

To clear up some apparent confusion:

*Either* you create the telnet device beforehand (using IP/name and port) and don't need a queue processor,

*or* you create the queue using /ON with the IP/name and port *and* specify the TELNETSYM processor

cu,
Martin

[Wim Van den Wyngaert]

Just to understand this thread : is this multinet only ? If not, how do you create NTY devices ?

Wim

[Martin Vorlaender]

You can create telnet devices on HP TCP/IP services, too. See http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/732final/6526/6526pro_035.html#tel_create_sess_sec

HTH,
Martin

[Doug Phillips]

I, too, thought NTY devices were Multinet and they use a processor something like MULTINET_NTYSYM or is that just from my old rusty memory:-)

TCP/IP for OVMS creates TNA's but I didn't know it could create NTY's. And, I haven't looked lately, but I know that once upon a time you could set NTY device spooled but not a TNA. Has that changed?

Doug

[Martin Vorlaender]

>>>
I too, thought NTY devices were Multinet and they use a processor something like MULTINET_NTYSYM or is that just from my old rusty memory:-)
<<<

Your old rusty memory is correct. As I see it, in Multinet, any terminal device is an NTY device. Just like TNAs are in TCP/IP Services.

>>>>
TCP/IP for OVMS creates TNA's but I didn't know it could create NTY's. And, I haven't looked lately, but I know that once upon a time you could set NTY device spooled but not a TNA. Has that changed?
<<<

Never tried that (neither with a TNA nor with an NTY).

cu,
Martin

[Carl Bennett]

You're going to want to use the MULTINET_NTYSMB processor for NTY queues, and you want to be sure to have the latest updates from Process, as there were some bugs in 4.2 and 4.3 (I haven't tried multinet 5 yet, but I'm on the list for the 5.1 beta)...

Also, we kept getting blank pages after the print jobs, so I started throwing a reset into the queue that looked something like this...

RESET
PE\
SEPARATE
]VMS;2\

The whole thing looks something like this...

$ init /que /start /on = /record -
/default = (NOFEED,NOFLAG,NOBURST,NOTRAIL,FORM='QFORM) -
/process = MULTINET_NTYSMB/retain = error /sched = nosize -
/separate = (reset =(reset,separate)) /no_initial_ff

For best results with these, you do want to spool them, and they won't create unless you build the NTY first...

NTYCP:==$MULTINET:NTYCP
NTYCP CREATE PORT /NODE = XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX /PORT = XXXX

[Jan van den Ende]

Chaim,

Robert,

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