dclcomplete for Alpha and Itanium ?

[labadie_1]

On Vax there was a Dclcomplete tool which was really handy: it did
- verb completion, so
$ ana + Tab gave analyze
- option completion
$ ana/ + tab showed all the possible options for analyze (not the options appearing in the help, but all the options that a VERB analyze would show in a verb.cld)
- file completion
$ dir log + tab would show login.com if you have a login.com in this directory
- extension completion
$ dir login. +tab would show login.com, or login.com and login.old if you had 2 files login.*

I know that it is far from trivial to write such a tool for Alpha. I was wondering if some people had tried to do so for Itanium.

Thanks for any hint.

[Kris Clippeleyr]

Gerard,

DCLCOMPLETE appeared on the freeware CD 3.0, was originally written by Don Stokes, and later maintained (enhanced) by Ramon Curiel. You can find the .ZIP file at http://vms.process.com/scripts/fileserv/fileserv.com?DCLCOMPLETE.
I doubt that it can be easily ported to Itanium, because as the original author states "it uses a rather ghastly hack to intercept DCL's I/O calls". AFAIK, it also required CMKRNL.
Maybe someday, I might give it a try. But given my current workload, do not expect any results soon.

Greetz,

Kris

[Ian Miller.]

The authors home page http://www.daedalus.co.nz/~don/index.html

I had a quick look and it appears definately non-trivial to port this classic piece of 10 year old MACRO32 - might be fun though :-)

[Ian Miller.]

I also noticied
http://h71000.www7.hp.com/wizard/wiz_3484.html

[Jan van den Ende]

Well,

maybe my wishes are even more modest.

I still have a Vax version of VERB, but as I hardly ever touch a Vax anymore, its usability has dwindled.
You seem to imply the existence of VERB for Alpha. I somehow never got to really searching for it, but you reminded me agian of its usefullness.

Anybody know where to get it?


TIA


Cheers


Have one on me


Jan

[Kris Clippeleyr]

Jan,

Verb for Alpha is at http://vms.tuwien.ac.at/goodies/verb-2_2/

Greetz,

Kris

[labadie_1]

I have used it on Alpha.

It is on the freeware too

http://h71000.www7.hp.com/freeware/freeware50/verb/

[labadie_1]

dclcomplete is on the freeware too

http://h71000.www7.hp.com/freeware/freeware40/dclcomplete/

[labadie_1]

As this completion is available on Linux and NT, may be if customers ask for it (loudly) HP will do it ?

:-)

[Kris Clippeleyr]

Gerard,


As this completion is available on Linux and NT, may be if customers ask for it (loudly) HP will do it ?


Next week I'm going to attend HP Dutch World. If I run into Guy Peleg, I'll ask him. Guy is the one from engineering doing DCL now.

Greetz,

Kris

[labadie_1]

Kris

Nice idea, and if I go to the same Update Days in London (I do not know yet), I will ask too.

[Ian Miller.]

in addition why not add a issue to the hp avocacy page (http://www.hpuseradvocacy.org/) and if you get five me too votes then hp will respond.

[labadie_1]

I have emailed advocacy@hpuseradvocacy.org
about that subject.

Is it the right way to open an issue ?

[Ian Miller.]

After you login (needs a email address only), use the search and submit issues link (near the top left of the page).
Follow links to the category within openvms and use the submit button.

If you do submit the issue then tell people here and then people can go and vote me too!

[labadie_1]

I have submitted it, but I do not find it at

http://www.hpuseradvocacy.org/Advocacy/metoo/Categories.cfm

may be I have to wait a little ?

[Ian Miller.]

I don't see it either so parhaps there is a delay due to some human intervention?

[labadie_1]

the title is "Dclcomplete for Alpha and Itanium ?", simply.

let's wait a little.

[Ian Miller.]

Its here
http://www.hpuseradvocacy.org/advocacy/metoo/metooissue.cfm?IssueID=1792

[Antoniov.]

Added my vote

Antonio Vigliotti

[Guy Peleg · Accepted solution]

We are looking at implementing automatic
command completion for the next version
of the O/S (Post V8.2). If we'll do it, we
plan to support completion of filenames as well. As noted before, this is not trivial
but might be fun.

*** Please do not see this update as an
official commitment ***

Guy

[Ian Miller.]

What a hero that Guy Peleg is :-)

Is this another triumph for the VMS Community?

At least VMS Engineering do consider user suggestions and sometimes they get implemented. On the presentation at the VMS TUD there where several DCL enhancements which where originally user requests.

I think things get added if asked for by important software vendors such as RDB too!

I guess the answer to Gerard's original question is - not yet :-)

[Jan van den Ende]

Guy.

"not trivial but might be fun."

Okay man, have your fun, so we will get it!!

:-)

Cheers.

Have one on me.

Jan

[Antoniov.]

*** Please do not see this update as an
official commitment ***

Even if no implementation will be make, it's very important some engeener can listen VMS users!

Thank Guy :-)
Cheers

[labadie_1]

Thanks a lot Guy for considering the problem.

Gerard, awaiting for Vms 8.3, for doing some testing :-)

[Ian Miller.]

If another two people vote me too at
http://www.hpuseradvocacy.org/advocacy/metoo/metooissue.cfm?IssueID=1792

then there will be an official response.