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04-24-2007 07:29 AM
04-24-2007 07:29 AM
If I need to setup proxy login between two (2) Alpha running VMS server, do I need to have Decnet setup before I can setup the Proxy login?
If yes, how hard would it be to setup Decnet? Would you know where I find up-to-date reference materials for this? By the way, I am running OpenVMS 8.3 ia64
Thank you in advance.
Jorge
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04-24-2007 07:38 AM
04-24-2007 07:38 AM
Re: Decnet & Proxy login question
If you intend to use DECnet, then you'll need
to have DECnet running before any DECnet
proxy will be useful.
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04-24-2007 07:46 AM
04-24-2007 07:46 AM
SolutionDo you have somebody that can provide you with the local network information, or are you establishing a new DECnet network?
Are there existing connections or existing DECnet nodes?
As for first question, you can't use proxies until you have DECnet running. But the answer to your question is "yes", you can add proxies into the NETPROXY and NET$PROXY databases without DECnet around.
How you set up DECnet depends on whether or not you have DECnet Phase IV or DECnet-Plus.
DECnet Phase IV is documented via some manuals on the Freeware, and can largely be handled with @SYS$MANAGER:NETCONFIG.COM, and answering the questions.
DECnet-Plus configuration is somewhat more involved, and you should read the manuals before starting that process. The baseline configuration tool is NET$CONFIGURE.COM, though the DECnet-Plus environment is rather larger and more complex.
Here are the DECnet Phase IV docs:
http://www.hp.com/go/openvms/freeware
Look on Freeware V5.0 -- direct path:
http://h71000.www7.hp.com/freeware/freeware50/decnet_phase_iv/
Here is the path to the DECnet-Plus docs:
http://www.hp.com/go/openvms/doc/
Once you have DECnet configured and running, you can then add your proxies using the various AUTHORIZE commands including ADD/PROXY.
Depending on the specific requirements here, you can also avoid passwords through the use of ssh and sftp and such; you can use IP tools to provide no-password login processing.
This question seems rather odd, as it strikes me that there is additional background on the requirements as yet unstated.
Stephen Hoffman
HoffmanLabs LLC
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04-24-2007 08:52 AM
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Re: Decnet & Proxy login question
Thank you.
Jorge
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04-24-2007 10:18 AM
04-24-2007 10:18 AM
Re: Decnet & Proxy login question
> OpenVMS 8.3 ia64
You're joking, right?
> The basic things that we're trying to do
> [...]
It's always nice to get those, eventually.
> I also would like to know more options for
> Decnet vs Decnet over IP, etc.
Pretty much the same as the options you
already have on your Alpha systems.
http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/index.html
http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/decnetplus83.html
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04-24-2007 10:30 AM
04-24-2007 10:30 AM
Re: Decnet & Proxy login question
So, what would you recommend for me to use Decnet over IP or Decnet plus or something like that??
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04-24-2007 10:41 AM
04-24-2007 10:41 AM
Re: Decnet & Proxy login question
continue to use DECnet? How complicated
would you like to make your life?
> What I meant to say is the version or the
> naming for the new product for Decnet on
> ia64.
http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/index.html
http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/decnetplus83.html
According to the installation guide, your
DECnet options are about the same as before.
The version is different if the version is
different.
http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/83final/ba322_90045/ch01s05.html#display-option
[...]
HP I64VMS DECNET_PLUS version V8.3
HP I64VMS DECNET_PHASE_IV version V8.3
[...]
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04-24-2007 01:54 PM
04-24-2007 01:54 PM
Re: Decnet & Proxy login question
Thanks,
Jorge
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04-24-2007 02:22 PM
04-24-2007 02:22 PM
Re: Decnet & Proxy login question
more than a few minutes. Knowing nothing,
I'd probably try things like:
SHOW NETWORK
MCR NCP SHOW EXEC
MCR NCL SHOW IMPL
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04-24-2007 02:26 PM
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Re: Decnet & Proxy login question
PROD SHOW PROD DECNET*
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04-25-2007 08:21 AM
04-25-2007 08:21 AM
Re: Decnet & Proxy login question
------------------------------------ ----------- ---------
PRODUCT KIT TYPE STATE
------------------------------------ ----------- ---------
HP I64VMS DECNET_PLUS V8.3 Full LP Installed
------------------------------------ ----------- ---------
1 item found
I will be reading up on how to configure the DECnet.
Thanks for your help..
Jorge
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04-25-2007 08:39 AM
04-25-2007 08:39 AM
Re: Decnet & Proxy login question
will get you the basics
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04-26-2007 07:23 AM
04-26-2007 07:23 AM
Re: Decnet & Proxy login question
If everything you have now is Phase IV, the argument could be made to set your new system up also with Phase IV. If you want to do this, you must first uninstall Phase V before installing Phase IV on your Integrity server.
If you will be mixing versions, read up on anything and everything that entails ... and if this will be your first Phase V box, what extra features and config items you will have to work with.
I mention this because your PRODUCT display shows Phase V being there :-)
Verne
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04-27-2007 01:53 AM
04-27-2007 01:53 AM
Re: Decnet & Proxy login question
Here's what my other Alphas currently running:
----------------------------------- ----------- ------------
PRODUCT KIT TYPE STATE
----------------------------------- ----------- ------------
DEC AXPVMS DECNET_OSI V7.3-2 Full LP Installed
----------------------------------- ----------- ------------
1 item found
Our new Alpha server is currently in production test environment and we would like to migrate to the new environment in couple of months. What should I do in this case?
Thank you.
Jorge
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04-27-2007 02:16 AM
04-27-2007 02:16 AM
Re: Decnet & Proxy login question
> DEC AXPVMS DECNET_OSI V7.3-2 Full LP Installed
Same stuff, different name. If you're
already using DECNET_OSI/DECNET_PLUS/Phase V
on your old systems, then it probably makes
sense to use it on your new system(s).
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05-07-2007 06:37 AM
05-07-2007 06:37 AM
Re: Decnet & Proxy login question
OM;41 as output
-RMS-E-CRE, ACP file create failed
-SYSTEM-F-NOSUCHNODE, remote node is unknown
%COPY-W-NOTCOPIED, DISK5:[USER.jorge]LOGIN.COM;41 not copied
I can ping the server on either nodes without any issues. I can also FTP between nodes as well. What am I missing here??
Thanks,
Jorge
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05-07-2007 08:30 AM
05-07-2007 08:30 AM
Re: Decnet & Proxy login question
$ MCR DECNET_REGISTER
and use the menu option to add a node.
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05-07-2007 04:34 PM
05-07-2007 04:34 PM
Re: Decnet & Proxy login question
DECNET or TCPIP
DECNET
-----
If u want to configue decnet first..
Then run
$@net$configure basic
After that you can add proxy account by
$run sys$system:authorize
$ADD/PROXY MISHA::MARCO */DEFAULT
For TCPIP
---------
ADD PROXY user { /HOST=host | /REMOTE_USER=user }
[ /PERMANENT ]
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05-08-2007 02:37 AM
05-08-2007 02:37 AM
Re: Decnet & Proxy login question
Wow, what a learning session I had with DECNET.
One quick question. What would I need to setup for a user to perform remote copy between nodes without passing the "Username & Password".
Thank you very much!!
Jorge
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05-08-2007 05:25 AM
05-08-2007 05:25 AM
Re: Decnet & Proxy login question
Create a proxy account at the remote node and grant proxy acount access to your account at local node... and use the following command
$copy rem_node::rem_filename local_filename
rem_file should be in the default device/dir and the remote proxy account shoud have access permission for the rem_filename.
If the file is not the default dire of proxy account, then specify the directory like this,
$copy rem_node::[rem_dir]rem_filename local_filename.
Archunan
Archie
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05-08-2007 05:50 AM
05-08-2007 05:50 AM
Re: Decnet & Proxy login question
You can see the VMS HELP to create the proxy account.
or
At the remote node name - rxxx (local node is lxxx)
$mcr authorize
uaf> add prx_acct/pass=../dire=../dev=.. etc as usual
uaf> create/proxy
uaf>add/proxy lxxx::your_username rxxx/default
uaf> you can add any other username also to have proxy access with the same cmds
now you can use the above copy commands without specifying the UN and PWD
Archunan
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05-08-2007 07:24 AM
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Re: Decnet & Proxy login question
The normal syntax that I used to copy from Server_A to Server_B is:
COPY Test.OUT Server_A"Jorge PASSWORD"::DSA5:[USER.Jorge]*.* /log
Thank you!!
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05-08-2007 08:02 AM
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Re: Decnet & Proxy login question
MCR AUTHORIZE ADD/PROXY thisnode::remotenuser JEORGE/DEF
where remoteuser is the username on this node.
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05-08-2007 10:05 AM
05-08-2007 10:05 AM
Re: Decnet & Proxy login question
Assume the account jorge is in Server_A
At Server_B:
Create a proxy account named pr_jorge. A proxy login enables a user logged in at a remote node (Server_A) to be logged in automatically to a specific account (pr_jorge) at the local node (Server_B), without having to supply any access control information.
$mcr authorize !-- make sure you don't create new uaf file
uaf> add pr_jorge/pass=xxxx/device=dka100/dire=[pr_jorge].. etc as usual
uaf> create/proxy !---- give this command if you don't have the proxy database, this will create netproxy.dat (decnet phase IV) or net$proxy.dat (for decnet phase V)
uaf>add/proxy Server_A::jorge pr_jorge/default
This allows the account jorge on server_A proxy access to account pr_jorge, all his privileges and allows temporarily act as pr_jorge when he (jorge) access Server_B.
you said, you want to copy from Srver_A to Server_B, but command you've given copies to Server_A. OK, we will do the same, coping test.out from Server_B to server_A
From Server_A/jorge account, give this command
$copy Server_B::test.out test.out
$copy server_B::[not_login_dir]test.out test.out
Archunan
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05-11-2007 09:22 AM
05-11-2007 09:22 AM
Re: Decnet & Proxy login question
Do I still need to create an acocount on Node B if I already have an account called 'Jorge' on node A and on Node B?
So, I would only need to do this, right?
On Node A:
add/proxy Server_A::jorge jorge/default
Node B:
add/proxy Server_A::jorge jorge/default
Please let me know.
Thanks for your help.
Jorge