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02-27-2004 01:21 AM
02-27-2004 01:21 AM
DECWINDOWS X
When I boot it, I start DECW in batch (don't ask why).
But on the grphical station, I have to do control f2 to get really into decw. Otherwise I stay in the console. I know that f2 is used to toggle.
Anyone an idea why I don't get decw directly ?
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02-27-2004 01:53 AM
02-27-2004 01:53 AM
Re: DECWINDOWS X
Check for sysgen parameter WINDOW_SYSTEM and for the following logical in systartup_vms.com
DEFINE DECW$IGNORE_DECWINDOWS TRUE
HTH,
Best regards,
Lokesh
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02-27-2004 01:58 AM
02-27-2004 01:58 AM
Re: DECWINDOWS X
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02-27-2004 02:10 AM
02-27-2004 02:10 AM
Re: DECWINDOWS X
I am not familiar with the AS500 anymore (this was a looong time ago). Does it have a switch at the back to enable the graphics screen as OPA0 and if yes how is it set?
Greetings, Martin
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02-27-2004 02:22 AM
02-27-2004 02:22 AM
Re: DECWINDOWS X
Yep. They are old (1997). But we use them until they fail (up to next decade !). We even have some older ones left (1995). Do you find many PC's of that age ?
I don't have any info about the switches at the back. But since they were not changed when switching to batch mode, this should have nothing to do with it.
Another try ?
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02-27-2004 02:28 AM
02-27-2004 02:28 AM
Re: DECWINDOWS X
I have a alpha server 2100 . I did the same, that is, started dec window in batch mode. But, I am NOT facing any problem. FYI, I am using VMS 7.3-1 & DWMOTIF V1.2-6.
Best regards,
Lokesh
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02-27-2004 06:18 AM
02-27-2004 06:18 AM
Re: DECWINDOWS X
I don't know DecW; in my mind you could set graphical console in SRM.
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02-27-2004 07:25 AM
02-27-2004 07:25 AM
Re: DECWINDOWS X
I've checked the DCLs in sys$startup and they give no indication of a different behaviour in interactive vs. batch mode. But since you do start in batch, is there a chance to write a log during the startup that might give us some more clues?
Greetings, Martin
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02-27-2004 09:22 AM
02-27-2004 09:22 AM
Re: DECWINDOWS X
Are there any particular error messages that you get when booting and starting up DECWindows? Does this only happen at boot-up or also if you restart DECWindows? What happens if/when you start DECWindows "normally" (not in batch)?
bob
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02-28-2004 12:42 AM
02-28-2004 12:42 AM
Re: DECWINDOWS X
[*] Even Fred Kleinsorge from OpenVMS engineering admitted in news:comp.os.vms that that behaviour is not correct.
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%2Bvms+%2Bkleinsorge+%2B%22window_system%22&hl=de&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=eIyF7.1277%24RL6.32514%40news.cpqcorp.net&rnum=2
If the URL does not work, I entered the following search parameters: +vms +kleinsorge +"window_system"
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03-01-2004 12:06 AM
03-01-2004 12:06 AM
Re: DECWINDOWS X
1) I started decwindows in batch and continued the boot in parallel. In the logfile :
%RUN-S-PROC_ID, identification of created process is 000000B3
Number of screens: 1
Screen devices and order: GYA0
%RUN-S-PROC_ID, identification of created process is 000000B4
%INSTALL-I-NONRES, image installed ignoring '/RESIDENT' DISK$WSYS01_SYST:
-INSTALL-E-NOGHREG, insufficient memory in the code or data granularity hint reg
ion
%INSTALL-I-NONRES, image installed ignoring '/RESIDENT' DISK$WSYS01_SYST:
-INSTALL-E-NOGHREG, insufficient memory in the code or data granularity hint reg
ion
...
2) After decwindows switches to graphics (just a flash), it switches directly back to console mode. To display the logout message ?
3) I did a set verify and found the code executed was not different. Only the installs failed (but is this a reason for the f2 behaviour ?).
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03-01-2004 03:42 AM
03-01-2004 03:42 AM
Re: DECWINDOWS X
-INSTALL-E-NOGHREG, insufficient memory in the code or data granularity hint region
That looks to me like you should run AUTOGEN. Normally, if DECW$STARTUP is run during startup it checks the system parameters and if they are not sufficient the boot process stops and the operator is asked if AUTOGEN should be run.
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03-01-2004 03:54 AM
03-01-2004 03:54 AM
Re: DECWINDOWS X
Try defining DECW$IGNORE_SHARE_ADDRESS TRUE as a system logical name. This will stop DECwindows installing images resident and avoid the messages.
The messages arise because, at the end of install, the granularity hint code region is trimmed to leave none unused. So when you start DECwindows later there is no space to install resident. Running AUTOGEN will not avoid this.
If you want the images installed resident (I never bother maybe because I change images far too often) then you will need to set the SYSTEM parameters that tell the system to retain extra granularity hint region.
Martin Kirby
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03-02-2004 07:41 PM
03-02-2004 07:41 PM