DST Patches for OpenVMS version 7.1-2

[owilliams]

I am new to OpenVMS and have been given the role of system admin and need some assistance. Do I need to install DST patches for the system? If so where do I get them and how do I install them? Thanks for the help!

[atul sardana]

Dear Owilliams,

First u can download DST patch from ITRC.hp.com and copy it to your system where you want to install it then run from where you copy this patch
$product install *

choose DST prod and enter

Atul Sardana

[owilliams]

I am not sure which update to use for our version of OpenVMS. The particular version we use is not listed. Again I am really new to OpenVMS. Thanks for the help.

[Volker Halle · Accepted solution]

Owilliams,

welcome to the OpenVMS ITRC forum.

There has been a recent article on OpenVMS.org pointing to Timezone files updated for this years DST changes from HP for unsupported versions of VMS:

http://www.openvms.org/stories.php?story=07/02/08/6646402

Volker.

[owilliams]

Very helpful thanks!

[owilliams]

I am having trouble installing the patches. What is the correct procedure? I get an error "invalid product name." I tried the command on the readme file to change the file attribute without much luck.

[Steven Schweda]

It might be easier to guess your problem if
you said what the PCSI file name is, and what
you tried which didn't work.

"[...] without much luck."

Does that mean that the command didn't work,
or that changing the file attributes didn't
solve the other problem?

[Hoff]

There are no patches for V7.1-2 nor would I expect there to be, so you will have problems with attempts to install patches for another release on V7.1-2. I expect that condition is the basis for your "without much luck" comment, but I am guessing on that.

The OpenVMS FAQ has a section on this topic, as you'll be building your own fix for this release. Or you'll be upgrading to a supported release with a DST and TZ ECO available, or you'll be manually switching over and just living with any of the (usually minor) low-level differences.

I have posted a synopsis of the DST and TZ over in http://64.223.189.234/node/72 with information and pointers to various HP, Oracle and other sites, and to the chater on time and timekeeping in the OpenVMS FAQ.

[owilliams]

Well the patches I am trying to install are the ones from the suggested site for unsupported versions of VMS. Is it best to just do this manually?

[atul sardana]

Owilliams ,
No more support from hp for 7.1-2 . I think now this is the right time for planing to upgrade latest one version of OVMS in your system. anyway now do it manualy.

thanks,

Atul sardana

[Volker Halle]

owilliams,

the HP site given does not have installable patches for the unsupported OpenVMS versions. It just provides updated timezone files, which you need to figure out how to 'install' the files yourself. I currently don't have a V7.1-2 system running, so I cannot try these updated timezone files and I'm also not running in one of the time zones affected by this DST change.

May I suggest, that you try to contact some of the experienced OpenVMS consultants - some are present in this forum - in your area and ask them for help ?

Volker.

[Ian Miller.]

a recommended book is the openvms system management guide which is sold at amazon

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1555582435/spyderbyte-20

and other places

More pointers can be found on

http://www.openvms.org/pages.php?page=Beginner

Training is a good thing - see Bruden or Parsec or HP for VMS training.

Are you in one of the affected time zones?

[owilliams]

Yes, The Servers are in the Central Time Zone for the U.S.
Can those courses be taken online?

[Hoff]

Available on-line (free) tutorials are referenced at the OpenVMS.org site, and in the OpenVMS FAQ: http://www.hoffmanlabs.com/vmsfaq/

The OpenVMS manuals are at:
http://www.hp.com/go/openvms/doc/

In the main manuals, I'd first suggest the User's Guide and then the System Manager's Essentials manual -- to start with.

Commercial courses from most (all?) vendors typically involve an instructor -- what you get from the printed materials is a fraction of what an instructor-led course provides. Most vendors do offer some free materials -- but the investment in preparing and maintaining the coursework generally means that the best classes and related materials are just not going to be free.

The biggest OpenVMS training event around is the annual OpenVMS Bootcamp. The next Bootcamp is coming up in mid-May: http://www.hp.com/go/openvms/bootcamp

Stephen Hoffman
HoffmanLabs

[Volker Halle]

owilliams,

OpenVMS training will certainly help you better understand your OpenVMS system over time, but you seem to be facing a slightly more immediate problem - the upcoming DST time change.

OpenVMS V7.1-2 itself does not have an automatic mechanism to change to/from DST time. A DST time change can be only done using SYS$EXAMPLES:DAYLIGHT_SAVINGS.COM or can be automatic, if you are running DTSS (check with SHOW SYS/PROC=DTSS$SERVER).

You can check your current timezone information with:

$ SHOW LOG SYS$*TIME*

Volker.

[Volker Halle]

owilliams,

you are not alone ;-)

Please consider to read the following thread:

http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=1106197

Volker.