Need MMS or MMK, but don't have C compiler

[Ts_hunter]

I need MMS or MMK in order to install various Perl modules from CPAN but I don't have a C compiler to create MMK and can't figure out where or how to get MMS.

Help???

[Steven Schweda]

Generally, to get MMS, one buys a CD or DVD
with an MMS kit on it. License sold
separately. (Hobbyist license cost is
approximately zero. A real, commercial
license costs more.) In fact, the latest
DECset ECO is a complete product kit, so, if
you have the right platform, you could get an
MMS kit by FTP. For example:

ftp://ftp.itrc.hp.com/openvms_patches/layered_products/alpha/

> Help???

You first. If you disclosed some useful
information, like, say, your hardware type
and OS version, you might get some help
obtaining a built MMK kit.

[Ts_hunter]

AlphaServer DS25 / openvms 7.3-2

Thanks.

[Steven Schweda · Accepted solution]

> AlphaServer DS25 / openvms 7.3-2

Hmmm. Upon actual inspection, the MMK kit I
have (V3.9-10) seems to include enough stuff
(Alpha and IA64 MMK.OLB, LINK.COM) to get you
going, even without a C compiler. Later ones
I've found easily seem to be less useful.

If you're desperate enough, try:

http://antinode.info/ftp/misc/mmk_3_9_10.zip

I may delete that in a few days.

I've been using V3.9-10 for a while, and
hadn't noticed/needed anything newer. MMK
kit providers might consider going back to
supplying the [.bin-XXX] directories again.

[Ts_hunter]

Hey, thanks for the MMK files. I appreciate it.

[Ts_hunter]

After I unzip this .zip file, what do I need to do in order to be able to use the MMK?

[Craig A Berry]

For the archives, MMK 4.1 is available at:

ftp://ftp.kednos.com/pub/mmk/mmk041.zip

But I don't think it has binaries.

[Steven Schweda]

> After I unzip this .zip file, what do I
> need to do in order to be able to use the
> MMK?

Do you mean what other than what's in
aaareadme.doc
aaareadme.install
aaareadme.too
mmk_doc.txt
???

[Joseph Huber_1]

Ts,
MMK is a source distribution.
To install CPAN modules, You will need a C compiler for many of them in addition to MMK.
(and open source in general).

But if You are that desparate, get my executable, built under Alpha VMS 7.3-1:
http://wwwvms.mppmu.mpg.de/util_root/exe/mmk.exe

or get access to one of the public access VMS systems to compile.

[Joseph Huber_1]

To say it the other way around:
if You don't need a C compiler to install a perl module, then You can install it without MMS as well.
Many perl modules are just interfaces to libraries written in C (or other languages).
If a module is pure perl, then You can copy the .pm modules simply to the perl_root:[lib] directory and are done without MMS.
The (MMS) makefile just guides You through test and install.
All other modules need a compiler to build the library. Look into the distribution archive for the module (tar or zip) in question: if there are .xs,.c,.h files, then You will need a C compiler.