openVMS WEB builder

[John Donovan_4]

Is there a product I can get to create WEB pages on OpenVMS much like Dreamweaver, NetOjects, etc?

[labadie_1]

Mozilla Composer ?

[Craig A Berry]

I think NetBeans also has HTML editing support.

[Ken Robinson]

You can use any editor to create your HTML source. If you don't want to write HTML, create your pages on a PC or MAC and FTP the source files to VMS.

Ken

[Kris Clippeleyr]

Hi John,
We recently ported ASHE (A Simple HTML Editor) to VMS.
Have a look at
http://www.quadratrix.be/products/open_source_material.html
Regards,
Kris (aka Qkcl)

[Robert Gezelter]

John,

In addition to the interactive utilities already mentioned, note the availability of XML and XSLT implementations for OpenVMS.

Used properly, XML and XSLT are powerful technologies to generate mass numbers of www pages from similarly structured underlying data. This is far more powerful than many techniques generally used in the www world. In particular, careful use of these tools can be integrated with batch production processes, eliminating requirements for manual intervention in workflows.

I hope that the above is helpful.

- Bob Gezelter, http://www.rlgsc.com

[Bojan Nemec]

Bob,

Good point!

You can use XSLT to move contents away from the external look of the WEB page. You must only define an XML specification on how you write yours documents an write one or more XSL files which converts yours documents to HTML (and not only HTML). I use this technique to write all my documentation which is then used in PDF or HTML.

When you need more features, just expand the definition and add this to the XSL files.

Of course you must learn XSLT which is not so dificult. See the links at W3C:

http://www.w3.org/Style/XSL/

Bojan

[Carl Couric]

As an OpenVMS ISP, many of my clients do use Dreamweaver. We use the HG Ftp to get OpenVMS files to look more like "UNIX" style, even with ODS-5 disks, and handle FTP properly. Why can't you just use Dreamweaver to create your Web pages?

Carl
http:\\www.carlc.com - OpenVMS webhosting since 1999

[John Donovan_4]

Kris - I've downloaded ASHE and so far no luck with building it. I've opened the ZIP in a [WEBTOOLS.XHTML] subdirectory, the restored the backup file there. When I run QPORT.COM it 1st complained that is could find DECSRIP.MMS, so I move that where it was looking. Then it reported to me
"Building ASHE (aka XHtml 1.3) for OpenVMS Alpha V7.3-2

%MMS-F-GWKNOPRN, There are no known sources for the current target
$1$DGA101:[VMS_SUPPORT.WEBTOOLS.XHTML.WWW.QUADRATRIX.DOWNLOADS.CONTRIB.VMS]XHTML.C"

What have I missed?

Also, to answer those who have suggested buidling on a PC and exporting to OpenVMS, I don't always have a PC available when I need to make changes, so I woud rather have it native to OpenVMS (which is a better working environment anyway). Thanks for your input.

[Kris Clippeleyr]

John,

My apologies for the late reply.

To build ASHE, you have to

1. Download the tarball from:
http://fresh.t-systems-sfr.com/unix/src/www/.warix/xhtml-1.3.tar.Z.html
(pick the ".tar.gz" file)

2. Run Gnu Zip against the tarball
(Note that I named it XHTML-1_3_TAR.GZ)
$ gz :== $the$disk:[the.path]gzip.exe
$ gz -d XHTML-1_3_TAR.GZ
(This produces the file XHTML-1_3_TAR
I renamed that to XHTML-1_3.TAR)

3. Put that file in an empty directory ( say [XHTML-1_3] ) & run VMSTAR against it
$ tar :== $the$disk:[the.path]vmstar.exe
$ tar -xovf XHTML-1_3.TAR
(This creates a subdirectory [.SRC] with all the source files)
4. The contents of the ZIP-file, .BCK file you've downloaded from our website should be put in the directory [.CONTRIB.VMS] next to the [.SRC] directory, with the exception of QPORT.COM which should be located in [XHTML-1_3].

5. Make sure you edit QPORT.COM to tell it where to find "LibHtmlW" and "LibCCI"

6. Then set default to [XHTML-1_3] and @QPORT from there.

This should do the trick.

As an attachment, I'm including a directory listing of our XHTML directory tree.

Hope this helps,
Kris (aka Qkcl)