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03-11-2008 04:34 AM
03-11-2008 04:34 AM
I have an ES40 that we have been using for years now and have just purchased a new ES40 to use as a backup machine.What i need to do is get the new machine running exactly the same as the original machine with all the same software etc... we don't really need all the data files.
What would be the best way to achieve this?
Thanks
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03-11-2008 04:37 AM
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Re: Setting up a backup machine
just take a copy of the system disk (and the otehr disks eventually) from your old ES40 and copy it to your new ES40. When you start up the new ES40, make sure you are not connected to the network to prevent network address conflicts.
Volker.
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03-11-2008 05:45 AM
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Re: Setting up a backup machine
However... I'd urge you to take this opportunity to excercise the catastrophic recovery playbook.
What is the current procedure if the current box were to ever become unuseable?
Use that procedure on the target backup box!
Roll out those tapes!
Cheers,
Hein.
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03-11-2008 06:03 AM
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03-11-2008 06:13 AM
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Re: Setting up a backup machine
Anything installed on the source system, will be at the copy.
However, ALL configs are also identical!
That might be your intention, but then you will have to make D**N sure that those systems will ***NEVER*** be able to "see" each other on whatever circuit!!
You can also temporarily isolate them, and then configure nodename, network adresses, disknames, custer ID, etc somewhat differently.
After that, you can setup things to, eg, be reachable from the same terminal (or emulator).
Also, when the copied system is on line, you will want to put its own licenses in its LMM database. :-)
hth
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Have one on me.
jpe
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03-11-2008 06:16 AM
03-11-2008 06:16 AM
Re: Setting up a backup machine
And that's exactly what the earlier warnign was about... you probably do NOT want a second node on the network claiming the same name/numbers.
Anyway, the tricky part are probably the device and be device names
- Same network interface? EWxx vs EIxx
- Same hard-drive? DRxx vs DKxx ?
A bit more or less memory, or an CPU more or less will not make a functional difference but may require node specific tuning.
A typically a VMS configuration is NOT dependent on Serial numbers or MAC addresses, but your application might be.
In fact, in light of the earlier warning, you MIGHT want to construct a dependency in the boot process on a known configuration feature or environment variable (firmware!). Thus the system boot procedure could possibly detect whether it is 'home' or on an alternate config and behave accordingly.
Sorry, I haven't thought this through in enough detail to provide you with details.
Hein.
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03-11-2008 06:18 AM
03-11-2008 06:18 AM
Re: Setting up a backup machine
That's partly depending on how your storage is attached, if it's "local" SCSI-storage you could do as others have mentioned, but if you got fibre-channel storage you could set up boot-path to the very same system disk as the original ES40 uses, but never boot it as the original is up and running.
And you could also configure the backup-machine with the same exact hardware and number of ethernet interfaces and connect them the same so the backup machine will match these like the original if and when it has to replace the other.
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03-11-2008 07:33 AM
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Re: Setting up a backup machine
fwiw
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03-18-2008 08:16 AM
03-18-2008 08:16 AM
Re: Setting up a backup machine
How do i change the hostname and ip address of the server?
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03-18-2008 08:39 AM
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Re: Setting up a backup machine
I do not see which TCP/IP stack is in use. If it is a recent version of TCP, then the TCPIP$CONFIG.COM command procedure. One can also do this change manually, but it is easier and simpler to use the command procedure.
- Bob Gezelter, http://www.rlgsc.com
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03-18-2008 08:41 AM
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Re: Setting up a backup machine
It will also likely be necessary for the DECnet address/name and the SCSSYSTEMID/SCSNODE.
- Bob Gezelter, http://www.rlgsc.com
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03-18-2008 08:43 AM
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Re: Setting up a backup machine
the OpenVMS FAQ has a chapter about this:
5.7 How do I change the node name of an OpenVMS System?
http://h71000.www7.hp.com/faq/vmsfaq.txt
Volker.
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03-18-2008 08:48 AM
03-18-2008 08:48 AM
Re: Setting up a backup machine
The "most recent" FAQ update is here:
http://www.hoffmanlabs.com/vmsfaq
For this question, also look here:
http://64.223.189.234/node/589
for "Changing the Node Name of an OpenVMS Host".
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03-18-2008 10:56 AM
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Re: Setting up a backup machine
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03-18-2008 04:27 PM
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Re: Setting up a backup machine
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03-18-2008 06:29 PM
03-18-2008 06:29 PM
Re: Setting up a backup machine
If you want this computer to be available on the network, you will have to change DECnet addresses (sys$manager:net$configure.com), IP addresses (tcpip$config), modparams.dat, maybe licenses, etc.
If you want to make this an application failover / backup, you might get away with changing some logical names and so forth. So it depends on how far you want to take this. If I had a complete spare like that, I would probably want to VMScluster it and setup the application to run on either machine, if one or the other broke down. That is a lot of work though and perhaps a drop in replacement would be the easiest route, at least initially.
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03-28-2008 06:43 AM
03-28-2008 06:43 AM
Re: Setting up a backup machine
Guess i need to change some startup / parameter files anybody know which ones??
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03-28-2008 07:01 AM
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Re: Setting up a backup machine
http://64.223.189.234/vmsfaq/vmsfaq_007.html#mgmt9
cu,
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03-28-2008 07:26 AM
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03-29-2008 02:35 AM
03-29-2008 02:35 AM
Re: Setting up a backup machine
from your Forum Profile:
I have assigned points to 193 of 248 responses to my questions.
Most of those date back to 2004!
Maybe you can find some time to do some assigning?
http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/helptips.do?#33
Mind, I do NOT say you necessarily need to give lots of points. It is fully up to _YOU_ to decide how many. If you consider an answer is not deserving any points, you can also assign 0 ( = zero ) points, and then that answer will no longer be counted as unassigned.
Consider, that every poster took at least the trouble of posting for you!
To easily find your streams with unassigned points, click your own name somewhere.
This will bring up your profile.
Near the bottom of that page, under the caption "My Question(s)" you will find "questions or topics with unassigned points " Clicking that will give all, and only, your questions that still have unassigned postings.
If you have closed some of those streams, you must "Reopen" them to "Submit points". (After which you can "Close" again)
Do not forget to explicitly activate "Submit points", or your effort gets lost again!!
Thanks on behalf of your Forum colleagues.
PS. - nothing personal in this. I try to post it to everyone with this kind of assignment ratio in this forum. If you have received a posting like this before - please do not take offence - none is intended!
PPS. - Zero points for this.
Proost.
Have one on me.
jpe
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04-16-2008 07:47 AM
04-16-2008 07:47 AM
Re: Setting up a backup machine
*E* Licensing: PH8-ALPHA-RUNTIME PH8-ALPHA-RUNTIME-W-REPORTING
PH8-ALPHA-DEVELOPMENT PH8-TEMPORARY PH8-DEMO Cannot find license file (-1,73:6)
no such device or address
Thanks
Peter
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04-16-2008 02:25 PM
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Re: Setting up a backup machine
>*E* Licensing: PH8-ALPHA-RUNTIME PH8-ALPHA-RUNTIME-W-REPORTING
>PH8-ALPHA-DEVELOPMENT PH8-TEMPORARY PH8-DEMO Cannot find license file (-1,73:6)
>no such device or address
That's not a normal OpenVMS licensing error.
My guess is it's from 3rd party software, possibly called "PH8"? and the license mechanism is expecting to see a device or file which doesn't exist on your new system.
You'll need to contact the vendor to determine how their licensing works (and, indeed, if you're legally allowed to run their software on a backup system).
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04-17-2008 12:58 AM
04-17-2008 12:58 AM
Re: Setting up a backup machine
Do you know what i need to change to get it to work on the new machine all i can see is a server name that i have changed but still doesn't work...
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