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06-20-2007 03:15 PM
06-20-2007 03:15 PM
T4 does not collect data
I have 2xRX2620s clustered, running VMS V8.3. I have T4 installed on both, running the same command files, executables etc, logging to the same directories. One node runs fine; the other doesn't!
I can recreate the error - below is hacked from the T4$COLLECT command file:
$ Define Monitor T4$Sys:Monitor_IA64.Exe
$ monitor -
/Record=T4_LOKI_21JUN2007_1415_2359_Mon.Dat -
/Interval=60 -
/Flush_Interval=60 -
/Begin="21-JUN-2007 15:07:00.00" -
/End="21-JUN-2007 23:59:00.00" -
/Comment="HP rx2620 (1.60GHz/3.0MB) (2047Mb with 1 cpu(s))"-
/NoDisplay All_Classes
%MONITOR-I-NOUSER, TOPUSER data is not available in the requested input file
%MONITOR-E-COLLERR, error during data collection
-SYSTEM-F-BADPARAM, bad parameter value
...and I get no data collected. I've tried from various accounts, created a super account with more quota than necessary etc etc. Any ideas? Anyone aware of the parameter that might be bad?
Thanks
PJ
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06-20-2007 04:38 PM
06-20-2007 04:38 PM
Re: T4 does not collect data
Try commenting out the "$ DEFINE MONITOR ..."
and use standard monitor. See if that caused the error to go away. The samples collected may drift by a few seconds over the day, but other than that it should work.
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06-20-2007 04:56 PM
06-20-2007 04:56 PM
Re: T4 does not collect data
I don't have an equivalent system to test on. That TOPUSER error sounds suspicious. Is that a new in V8.3 thing? Are you using the latest T4 kit?
Maybe try with the normal MONITOR image. Do you get the same error?
Try the T4 image with just "MONITOR ALL" what happens?
If that doesn't help, I recommend you log a case with your local customer support centre, and/or send an email to the t4 comments address t4
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06-20-2007 07:25 PM
06-20-2007 07:25 PM
Re: T4 does not collect data
Next is a requirement for Alpha because there are some problems with the specific monitor version, but I've understood it applies to Itanium as well:
In t4$COLLECT.COM, look for this part of code:
$ If (Version_For_Compare .Le. 732)
$ Then
$ Define Monitor_Tv T4$Sys:Monitor_Tv_No_Drift.exe
$ Else
$! USE NORMAL MONITOR
$ If (Arch_Name .eqs. "ALPHA") Then Define Monitor T4$Sys:Monitor_Alpha.Exe
$ If (Arch_Name .eqs. "IA64") Then Define Monitor T4$Sys:Monitor_IA64.Exe
$ EndIf
Comment the definition of the Monitor logical:
$!! If (Arch_Name .eqs. "IA64") Then Define Monitor T4$Sys:Monitor_IA64.Exe
It seems to be 8.3 specific, HP is aware of the problem.
Willem
OpenVMS Developer & System Manager
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06-20-2007 07:33 PM
06-20-2007 07:33 PM
Re: T4 does not collect data
%SYSTEM-W-BADFILEHDR, bad file header
for each extraction. This will lead to numerous "Fine not found" errors later on.
This has been reported to HP, but I'm not sure what the current state is.
WG
OpenVMS Developer & System Manager
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06-20-2007 08:03 PM
06-20-2007 08:03 PM
Re: T4 does not collect data
just to confirm: I have downloaded and installed HP-VMS-T4-V0400--1 on a brand-new OpenVMS I64 rx2620 cluster (all patches applied) 2 weeks ago and T4 worked without a problem...
Volker.
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06-25-2007 11:22 AM
06-25-2007 11:22 AM
Re: T4 does not collect data
Thanks for the interest. Version I am using is HP-VMS-T4-V0400--1. Both nodes use the same t4$sys directory (on a volume shadowed, shared logical disk). AFAIK the two servers are installed & patched identically - I tend to do things to both servers at the same time.
Actually, the TOPUSER error occurs on both nodes, but on the other node the data collection is fine.
I will try without the redefinition of the monitor logical.
All the best,
PJ
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06-25-2007 06:08 PM
06-25-2007 06:08 PM
Re: T4 does not collect data
after checking the T4$DATA:T4_node_26JUN2007_0001_2359_SUBP_MON.LOG file, I must admit, that I'm also seeing the following message on both nodes:
%MONITOR-I-NOUSER, TOPUSER data is not available in the requested input file
This error message is a little bit misleading, as it is issued for a MONITOR/RECORD operation, where there is no 'input' file.
But this can be explained very easily: the MONITOR_I64.EXE image (built 4-FEB-2005) delivered with T4 V4.0 is not based on V8.3 and therefore does NOT contain the new (V8.3) /TOPUSER qualifier.
Does the %MONITOR-E-COLLERR/BADPARAM problem happen immediately or some time after starting this monitor session ?
Volker.
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06-25-2007 07:07 PM
06-25-2007 07:07 PM
Re: T4 does not collect data
I stronlgy believe that the
%MONITOR-E-COLLERR, error during data collection
-SYSTEM-F-BADPARAM, bad parameter value
error is independent of the MONITOR-I-NOUSER informational message.
This error will most likely be related to some configuration/system parameter combination. Only HP - with access to the sources of MONITOR_IA64.EXE - can find out what's wrong.
Volker.
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06-27-2007 11:40 AM
06-27-2007 11:40 AM
Re: T4 does not collect data
Yes, the two MONITOR errors are independant of each other - both nodes get the first error, but only one node gets the second.
The BADPARAM error occurs immediately, and not after a delay.
Have tried using standard MONITOR instead of that supplied with T4, but this causes a "%SYSTEM-W-BADFILEHDR, bad file header" error when T4EXTR tries to process the files - so I end up with no data for either node!
T4 ain't gonna be my friend for much longer...
Peejay
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06-27-2007 09:55 PM
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07-09-2007 12:49 AM
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07-09-2007 12:54 AM
07-09-2007 12:54 AM
Re: T4 does not collect data
please send mail to the HP T4 mail address. Don't rely on someone from HP reading this forum looking for problem reports.
Also please be more specific on what 'stopped working properly ' after the upgrade to OpenVMS Alpha V8.3.
As I've already said, I installed T4 V4 on a new OpenVMS I64 cluster and it works fine (except the %MONITOR-I-NOUSER message, which I've explained).
Volker.
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07-09-2007 01:17 AM
07-09-2007 01:17 AM
Re: T4 does not collect data
I'm having the exact problem that Willem posted in his two replies above. I will try to comment out the define command and see what happens.
I'll post a reply with my results.
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07-09-2007 02:07 PM
07-09-2007 02:07 PM
Re: T4 does not collect data
Have contacted the T4 HP people, he is away on holiday but will be contacting me this week when he gets back. I'll post a solution here, hopefully.
Unfortunately having several other (I assume) 8.3 problems at the moment...
PJ
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07-15-2007 03:14 PM
07-15-2007 03:14 PM
Re: T4 does not collect data
Just thought I'd let you know that I've been told there is a newer version of t4 that 'works better' with 8.3 . Will keep you posted when I get to try it.
Also, I had to reboot my server due to a different problem last week; T4 popped back into life for 2 days and collected data properly, on the third day it was back to the 'bad parameter' problem. Very MS-ish!
Cheers,
PJ
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07-26-2007 07:13 PM
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07-26-2007 09:22 PM
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07-31-2007 11:51 AM
07-31-2007 11:51 AM
Re: T4 does not collect data
I have received the beta test version for 8.3, and I can confirm that is has been successfully collecting data for the past 2 weeks now. So problem solved.
Cheers,
PJ
Peejay
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