About install TRU64 5.1A in Digital Server 3300

[楊萬山]

Dears:
I have some questions about installing TRU64 5.1A. Can I install TRU64 5.1A on Digital Server 3300. Does the TRU64 5.1A support Digital Server 3300 hardware?
Thanks.

[Ralf Puchner]

Please read the release notes and technical handbook delivered with the distribution! Turbo Channel is not supported anymore!

Why not reading the docu included with the distribution answering the question as fast as possible?

[Mobeen_1]

Looks like Digital Server 3300 is no longer supported, check the infor below obtained from http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/10513_div/10513_div.HTML#Supported%20Hardware



Supported Hardware

Combinations of hardware options are subject to limitations, such as bandwidth, physical configuration constraints, and electrical load and power supply.
HP reserves the right to change the number and type of devices supported by Tru64 UNIX. The minimum hardware requirements for future versions and updates of Tru64 UNIX may be different from current requirements. See the following URL:
http://h18002.www1.hp.com/alphaserver/products/options.html


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Supported AlphaServer Systems AlphaServer Models
AlphaServer 300
AlphaServer 400
AlphaServer 800
AlphaServer l000
AlphaServer l000A
AlphaServer 1200
AlphaServer 2000
AlphaServer 2l00
AlphaServer 2100A
AlphaServer 4000
AlphaServer 4100
AlphaServer 8200
AlphaServer 8400
AlphaServer DS10, DS10L, DS15
AlphaServer DS20, DS20E, DS20L, DS25
AlphaServer ES40, ES45, ES47, ES80
AlphaServer GS60, GS60E, GS140
AlphaServer GS80, GS160, GS320, GS1280

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Supported Alpha Workstation Systems Alpha Workstation Models
AlphaStation 200
AlphaStation 250
AlphaStation 400
AlphaStation 255
Ultimate Workstation 533au
AlphaStation 500
AlphaStation 600
AlphaStation 600A
AlphaStation DS20E
AlphaStation ES40
Professional Workstation XP1000, XP900
Personal Workstation 433au, 500au, 600au

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Retired Hardware
The following hardware platforms were retired in Version 5.1 of Tru64 UNIX and are not supported with this release:
DEC 2000, DEC 3000, DEC 4000, DEC 7000, DEC 10000

XMI Bus support was retired in Version 5.1 of Tru64 UNIX and is not supported with this release.

All VME based platforms will be retired no sooner than Q2 2002.

Let me know if you have any specific questions.

rgds
Mobeen

[Uwe Zessin · Accepted solution]

I beleive there is a misunderstanding:
A 'Digital Server 3300' is not the same as a 'DEC 3000-300'. While the first one is indeed a turbochannel-based system the latter one is a Windows NT-only box, based on the (I beleive AlphaServer 800).

'Digital Servers' were painted 'frost white' and their Alpha CPUs had their ID numbers mangled to establish a Windows NT lock-in. For example the OpenVMS operating system did not boot on them, because it could not find the CPU-specific OS module.

I don't know how Tru64 Unix handles this.

[Mobeen_1]

I apologise and agree totally with Uwe.

Uwe,
Thanks for pointing that out

rgds
Mobeen

[楊萬山]

Thanks everybody.
I know I must read release notes and handbook first before asking question. But I can't find any information about this.
I am a rookie about Alpha system and TRU64.
Thanks Uwe again.
I know what's wrong.
Digidtal server 3300 and Alpha server 800 use the same BIOS, so I think Digital server 3300 may install TRU64. But I can't boot TRU64 CDROM it say "Unknown CPU". That's like Uwe said.
Maybe I should give up install TRU64.

Thanks all answer my question.

[Juha Vierinen]

Model Numbers Digital Server 3300r (Rackmount) - FR-R7F2W/FR-R7F4W
Digital Server 3300 (Pedestal) - FR-K7F2W/FR-K7F4W
CPU One 5/400 or 5/500 CPU
Physical Configurations pedestal or cabinet
Max memory 2 GB
Internal Storage Bays 4
Max I/O Throughput 266 MB
Expansion 3 PCI slots
2 EISA slots
1 64-bit PCI/EISA slot
Network Support 10/100 Mbit Ethernet


Minimum Operating Software Versions:

System: Digital Server 3000 Model 3300 - AlphaServer 800
Speed: 5/400
Windows NT: NT V4.0 SP3

[Ralf Puchner]

The 3300 is not listed within the compatibility list of Tru64....

Maybe this is the difference between real computer and PC world:
Normally it is important that the OS is supported and compatible with the used hardware, checking all components (inkl. software) for certification and to minimize downtime and problem solving time. If it will run but is not supported will give you no chance to get support from the vendor.

A plug & play is not a good starter and is a PC like behaviour.....

[Juha Vierinen]

Yes, I agree!

Digital Server 3300 supports only Win NT or Linux/FreeBSD etc. It does not support Tru64 or VMS!

_juha v