Can I runinig tru64 application on windows or linux

[MNMC]

Hallo

Can I runinig tru64 application on windows or linux, but ont by install the apllications on some tru64 unix emulater, as Wine mehtod, but by copying the exist application binaries and libraries from tru64 to the emulator or any other sulution?

For I have some special tru64 commercial application that can`t be installed in an usuall tru64, but only on special tru64 from the company, and the special tru64 can`t be installed on usuall alpha worksation but on special alpha worksation from the company.

[Dennis Handly]

>by copying the existing application binaries and libraries from tru64 to the emulator

If you have a faithful Alpha Tru64 emulator, I suppose you could probably do that.

>I have some special tru64 commercial application that can't be installed in an usually tru64, but only on special tru64 from the company

Hmm. Does it have some special type of I/O device? Or is this some security, IP protection, feature?

[John Manger]

As Dennis says, an emulator really is a faithful re-creation of a specific Alpha platform - it should be impossible for Tru64 UNIX to tell the difference between an emulated Alpha, and a physical Alpha of the same type. So the question is, what is 'special' about your vendor's workstation ?

Can you tell us what model or type is is ? (Sizer can give some of that info).

Can you say what makes their machine different ?

Have you tested you application on an Alpha emulator running Tru64 ? and if so, what were the results ?

John M

[MNMC]

> Hmm. Does it have some special type of I/O device? Or is this some security, IP protection, feature?

How I can know?


> As Dennis says, an emulator really is a faithful re-creation of a specific Alpha platform - it should be impossible for Tru64 UNIX to tell the difference between an emulated Alpha, and a physical Alpha of the same type. So the question is, what is 'special' about your vendor's workstation ?

> Can you tell us what model or type is is ? (Sizer can give some of that info).

Can you say what makes their machine different ?

my machine and it`s tru64 is modified by "Picker" company for Midecal Imaging software, here is more details:

http://forums11.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=1412250

Have you tested you application on an Alpha emulator running Tru64 ? and if so, what were the results ?

the tru64 and the main midecal applications was from "picker" in one CD, I tested to install the tru64 in "personal alpha" emulater, it boot from CD but tell me that this tru64 kernel can`t be installed exept in an alpha machine from picker named "odyssey FX".

beside, I need this emulater for viweing midecal images stored on windows system, so I prefere in this time some emulater work like "wine" more than one work like sun virtualbox.

[Dennis Handly]

>How I can know?

Asking the seller, Picker.

>Midecal Imaging

(It helps if you spell it: Medical Imaging)

>tell me that this tru64 kernel can't be installed except in an alpha machine from picker named "odyssey FX".

This might be due to the requirement it needs a special I/O device? Not realizing you just want to view with the data that was already captured.
Here is where contacting the vendor would be helpful.

>I need this emulator for viewing medical images stored on windows system

These are raw data files you copied over but you can't look at them?

[MNMC]

> Asking the seller, Picker.

I don`t think they well help me to dispense there alpha special machines.

>This might be due to the requirement it needs a special I/O device? Not realizing you just want to view with the data that was already captured.

What is I/O device?

I think that if I can convert the exist physical tru64 system with the applications to a virtual system for use them directly in some alpha emulator, but how? I searched about but find.

> These are raw data files you copied over but you can't look at them?

the raw data image files can be viewd, but not useful, I need to view processed midecal images by that applications.

[Steven Schweda]

> I don`t think they well help me [...]

Asking may be the only way to be sure.

> the tru64 and the main midecal applications
> was from "picker" in one CD, I tested to
> install the tru64 in "personal alpha"
> emulater, it boot from CD but tell me that
> this tru64 kernel can`t be installed exept
> in an alpha machine from picker named
> "odyssey FX".

No one here seems to have any experience with
this Picker system/software, which makes it
hard for anyone here to guess exactly who is
complaining about exactly what, or what you
would need to change where to get around the
problem. (It's also possible that doing what
you would like to do would violate the
original software license agreement, so keep
an eye open for the Software Police.)

Perhaps you could search through that CD-ROM,
and find the program or script which emits
that message, and figure out why it does
that. If the people who wrote this stuff
were clever, then it may be difficult to find
it, but you might get lucky.

[Dennis Handly]

>I don't think they well help me to dispense there alpha special machines.

You don't want to run their (most likely now obsolete) machines but their software.

>What is I/O device?

Something wrong here if you don't know what that is or how to look that up. In particular you said Gamma camera.

>the raw data image files can be viewed

You see pictures or just the bits?

>Steven: Asking may be the only way to be sure.

Right. It appears Picker was bought by Philips Medical Systems:
http://www.medical.philips.com/

[MNMC]

> No one here seems to have any experience with
this Picker system/software, which makes it
hard for anyone here to guess exactly who is
complaining about exactly what, or what you
would need to change where to get around the
problem.

sory, I don`t think it`s hard, but thinked it is possiple to copy the software to an emulator.

> (It's also possible that doing what
you would like to do would violate the
original software license agreement, so keep
an eye open for the Software Police.)

I think no, because I have the original picker-alpha and the original picker-tru64.

> Perhaps you could search through that CD-ROM,
and find the program or script which emits
that message, and figure out why it does
that. If the people who wrote this stuff
were clever, then it may be difficult to find
it, but you might get lucky.

Oh, that is really waht I need, it perhaps only a lie.

> You don't want to run their (most likely now obsolete) machines but their software.


>Steven: Asking may be the only way to be sure.

>Right. It appears Picker was bought by Philips Medical Systems:
http://www.medical.philips.com/

OK, thanks, I well not lose anything if I ask.

> You see pictures or just the bits?
It`s pictures of the original images come from Gamma camera.