HP 3-in-1 Hard Disk Upgrade

[Felix Elgato]

I will like to be informed if it is possible to change the internal Serial ATA 160 Gb.
I would like to use a new 500 Gb Hard Drive.
I tried to make the change, but once changed, the unit does not work.
Fortunately, when I reinstall the old 160 Gb HD, it worked again

[neil stober]

450 gb is largest it supports or somrething close to that . it is in manual

[mrladyboy]

Hi,

The 3-in-1 supports a 500gb HDD. Mine has one installed.

When you install a new drive, you need to install the NAS hidden partition. Without this, the NAS can't run.

Get googling, since you'll need nasload.exe (the HP NAS uses a broadcom chipset) and hpnas_split.nas - the firmware. You'll also need a TFTP program to upload the firmware:

1. If the drive has partition info, then you would need to blank it using diskpart, clean, etc.
2. Connect the NAS Dock to a local network with a DHCP router so that it obtains an IP address from it
3. Connect a host PC to the same local network as above.
4. Run tftpd32 in the background
5. On the host PC, open a command prompt and type
nasload /U /f hpnas_split.nas /P

My NAS now (correctly) shows it has a 500.1gb drive installed.

This will invalidate the warranty blah blah blah.

Good luck!

[old_melnik]

where I can get this files?

[stuko]

I too have put a 500Gb drive in mine. I put in a Western Digital GreenPower drive and it runs so much quieter and cooler now. It is definately worth doing, but will void your warranty etc.

As was said earlier, you need to get nasload.exe which you can find by googling. You also need hpnas_split.nas which you can download from HP within the latest firmware update SP exe for the 3-in-1 docking station.

With those 2 files, you also need to know the IP address of your NAS, and the username and password. Then follow these steps...

1. Connect the new HDD directly to a PC. Boot the PC with knoppix or linux.

2. Even though the disk is brand new, you must still wipe the first 3 (512k) blocks (just wait approx 5 minutes before using ctrl+C to exit) using dd command under knoppix...(note that your new disk should show up as something other than /sdx !!!!) TRIPLE CHECK THAT YOU ARE TARGETING THE CORRECT DISK BEFORE TYPING THIS COMMAND!!!!
>sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdx

3. Connect the new HDD to the NAS and wait for a ping response at any LAN connected PC (takes a couple of minutes)...
>ping

4. use nasload to load Broadcom HDD image (where and are actual)...
>nasload /a /u /p /f hpnas_split.nas

5. wait until NAS automatically reboots and comes up as normal (usually the fan stops spinning - takes about 2 full minutes)

6. Start using as normal with the new HDD fully working.

There is a 600Gb limit on all NAS connected storage including internal HDD.

[Stephen Edwards]

I have tried this procedure but get a 10053 error at the command prompt. I have shut down my AV software but the error message persists. The new drive is clean (unallocated). Any help in cracking this would be appreciated, please.

[Ed Karasinski]

For the 10053 error...

Use - nasload with /a /s /u /p /f options

The /s solves the 10053 error.

More info on drive replacement can also be found at http://www.k0lee.com/hpmediavault/index.html#hddreplacement

Yes, this is info on hpmediavault, but process is the same.

[Stephen Edwards]

Tried this without success, still get the 10053 error. I don't know Linux, so tried Putty.exe (as suggested on the Media Vault link) to re-blank the disk - but a connection was refused. I'm out of my depth here and would appreciate any further help!

[Danecki Jakub]

Stephen: You cannot use HP NAS to zero the drive - you need to do it using the computer. I managed to zero first to sectors (should be enough) using HxD Hex Edtior that can access raw disc - You just need to connect the drive, open it in read/write mode and just type 00 (zeros) over first two sectors and then save it. If you mix up the drives, say byebye to your data :)
BTW: I would like to confirm success upgrading the device with WD 750GB drive. Of course I was not able to use full capacity - but I managed to get stable pool of 650GB (I'm nearly sure that limit is 655350MB~16bit*10MB).

[Boris Horn]

what ist the MAX the unit does support ? how many gigs ?

[Roberto_144]

FW upgdade found here (dunno why in japanese!).

http://h18002.www1.hp.com/support/files/hpcpqnk/jp/download/23962.html

in there should be the updated firmare and the init fw needed, aka nas_split.nas which is not more on the net.

Provided link deals with nas but not the 3-in-1. More updates soon...

[Roberto_144]

ops a mistake in my prev post.
the "supplied link" = the http://www.k0lee.com/hpmediavault/index.html#hddreplacement
link.
this deals with other nasses...sorry

[Roberto_144]

stuko, please, unsharp some points to me:
1) if the nas stored the unit IP inside the disk, when we change disk, how it knows his actual ip ?

2) how nasload discovers the nas over the network ?

3) is the upgrade action isolated enough, I mean: retain old HDD, and reconected (and reboot) does preserve "pre" system state ?

thanks

[Roberto_144]

Works fine.
Some doubt cleared:

- NAS retains in onboard eepron IP(if static), user and password and all other "IP" related cfgs

- tfptd as suggested is needed JUST as it can work as a DHCP server. no need if NAS has a static ip or a router with DHCP enabled is connected to.

- when it has a blank disk it goes in "ready for fw" state. Nasload will discover it on the network and update it

- the update process needs 5-6 mins before 1st user notification. Wait and dont stop it. Needs time.

- After recive "good fw flashed"

Remote machine HPNAS (at address 192.168.0.**)
a firmware download.
Downloading hpnas_split.nas...
Transfer to HPNAS successful.

wait another 4-5 mins then connect from a networed pc directly to the NAS address and start to reconfigure it (pools disks etc)

thanks to all

[Roberto_144]

Now the bad news.
I tied to to exactly the same "operation" on an identical NAS...
no way.
Any time the error got is "10054".
The new HDD is zeroed for sure with several ways.

I'm scared, using the "hard reset", to loose old hard disk and nas capability :(

[Tadeusz Kaluzynski]

hi Jakub ;) w sumie bede pisac po polsku sorki.
i ja tak jak Felix chce zmienic 160Gb na cos wiekszego. mogl bys mi w skrocie napisac jak bezpiecznie taka operacje przeprowadzic? jak pozniej przeniesc dane z 160 na ta np. 500Gb? serdecznie pozdrawiam i czekam na odpowiedz.

[Roberto_144]

what about usage of english or french ? in polish nobody can help you...

[Carolyn Lundy]

How do you get even get it to recognize the 160 Gb that is in it. My laptop doesn't seem to know it is there.

[Roberto_144]

carolyn: you mean you have attached your laptop to the nas and you dont recognize it ? must pass by network even for docked laptop cradled. Browse your network and look for a device called \\hpnas. Or better, open your browser at NAS ip (check you cfg)

[Tadeusz Kaluzynski]

hi Jakub ;)
and I so as Felix wants to exchange 160Gb on something greater. would can me in to write step by step how to conduct such operations safely? how do later to transfer from 160 data on this np. 500Gb? I greet warmly and I wait on answer

[Carolyn Lundy]

Roberto, I don't think I understood what you were saying. The network doesn't show the the harddrive and when I put what you said in the browser, it didn't seem to know what I was asking for. I got a search screen. I am about to buy a hard drive enclosure and give up on this thing. I feel I was taken advantage of, but can't do anything about it now. If you have other suggestions, I am open to them.

Carolyn

[Roberto_144]

carolyn, HP nas 3-in-1 is a nice piece of hw, and works fine.
I guess you are missing some basics, to let use that.
I guess better start a private chat, as off topic, while trying to understood whats wrong there... please contact me directly in private, mail or msn...

[Carolyn Lundy]

Where do I do a private chat?

[W N]

Hi

Hopefully someone will read this old thread again like me! :)

I have done the upgrade as per instructions on this thread and everything went smoothly.....but.....I am having the following problem.

I have installed a WD 500GB SATA drive. I checked the drive and it was all zeros (checked with ActiveKillDisk 5.0), upgraded, added firmware.

Everything is working but when I try and copy a folder of files to the Public Share I get the message that not all properties of the file will be copied to the new location.

I have googled this and found that this is usually down to external storage being formatted in FAT32 and therefore the properties won't be copied across.

This new drive must have been formatted by the NAS 3 in 1, and I assumed it would function just as the stock 160GB disk did, ie, full NTFS like functionality in that I could copy files across without losing properties and also I suspect that it will not now allow files of larger than 2GB, just like its now a FAT32 drive!

Has anyone else who's upgraded had this problem with format of disk(?), file properties and mixumum file size.

My question is, what was different about the file system on the stock 160GB disk that made it possible for the NAS to act like a local HDD in every way???

I am close to just dumping the 500GB disk and going back to the stock disk!

Help would be very much appreciated here :)

Many Thanks

Winston

[Rick Ritter]

I followed the steps in this thread and was able to install a 500 Gb Seagate drive successfully. One snag I ran into was the error 10053 and 10054. I finally figured out that you must do a hard reset before the download will work. After doing a hard reset, the firmware downloaded, the disk partitions were created, the OS was written to the disk, and the NAS rebooted successfully. I was able to log into the NAS from the browser and configure everything including a statick IP address and my new data partition showed the whole 500 Gb. I was able to copy files to the NAS and thought everything was working fine until I unplugged the NAS and plugged it back in. When I plugged it back in, the NAS came back up looking for a download again instead of booting up. I tried this whole precedure three more times and got the same result. Everything is fine until I power down and power back up. I also discovered that if I do the hard reset, the NAS will boot up from the OS on the disk but then server name, ip address etc are all set back to default and I have to go through the whole config again. At this point I put the 160 Gb disk back in until I figure out what step is missing here. The 160 Gb disk boots up just fine. Looking for suggestions.