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07-05-2008 09:52 PM
07-05-2008 09:52 PM
Backup problems with MSL2024
I have DL380G5 8TB storage server. This has SC11Xe HBA fitted to which is connected a MSL2024 LTO-4 Ultrium 1840 SCSI Drive Library. All firmware and drivers are latest versions.
Backup software is CA BrightStor 11.5 SP3 When running a backup it fails with the CA software reporting unknown hardware SCSI error, but the Server and Tape library show no hardware errors.
Rebuilt system with recovery DVD and installed CA BrightStor 12 and got same error.
Replaced server and library hardware completely with new and got same error with CA 11.5 and 12.
Rebuilt with DVD and installed Backup Exec v 12 and got same error!!! However, Backup exec forum said thet the HP Management Agents were know to cause this problem. Rebuilt original hardware, disabled HP Agents and installed CA 11.5 SP3 and backups now run fine. 1.2TB in 4.5 hours.
So, how do I get round this as I want to remote monitor server with Agents.
Anyone seen this before?
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07-06-2008 10:48 AM
07-06-2008 10:48 AM
Re: Backup problems with MSL2024
make sure you are using the latest firmware in the library controller. Does it happen almost around the same time?.
Is that perhaps 24 hours after a library reboot?. The native fibre drives do not have such problems with fibre agents as the scsi variant with the NSR but better disable them.
Regards,
Arend
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07-06-2008 07:20 PM
07-06-2008 07:20 PM
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07-06-2008 11:32 PM
07-06-2008 11:32 PM
Re: Backup problems with MSL2024
Can you post a LTT support ticket here, taken asap after a failure please?.
Many, many things can cause a backup to abort, it maybe has nothing to do with hardware. You wrote that u used the SC11Xe adapter. It might be worth to emphasize that as not all adapters are supported with all libraries.
Can you please have a look at the compatibility table at hp.com/go/ebs.
Regards,
Arend
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07-07-2008 01:34 PM
07-07-2008 01:34 PM
Re: Backup problems with MSL2024
For that issue it's possible to work around the problem temporarily by loading an older version of storport.sys
HP is working with all of the different companies involved to figure out where the issue is and a solution will be made available as soon as possible.
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07-08-2008 01:57 PM
07-08-2008 01:57 PM
Re: Backup problems with MSL2024
An excerpt from that document for the registry entry that needs changed:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Enum\SCSI\
Value - BusyRetryCount
Type - DWORD
Data - 20 Decimal (default)
Range - number of retries
I don't know what the magic value is that works but 20 was probably just a guess for a good retry value. I would recommend you change it to 32 or 64.
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07-30-2008 07:08 AM
07-30-2008 07:08 AM
Re: Backup problems with MSL2024
Hopefully this resolves the issue.
I don't want to disable the HP agents, that is not a valid workaround in my opinion.
Some other thoughts: we only see the issue when both tape drives are powered on. If I disabled one, backups are successful. When both are enabled, it doesn't matter if they are both actively being used, it will fail with a Bus reset.
Crossing fingers for tonight's backups.
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07-30-2008 07:10 AM
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07-30-2008 09:59 AM
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07-31-2008 06:23 AM
07-31-2008 06:23 AM
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07-31-2008 06:29 AM
07-31-2008 06:29 AM
Re: Backup problems with MSL2024
Here are the errors for LSI_SAS:
Event Type: Error
Event Source: Lsi_sas
Event Category: None
Event ID: 11
Date: 7/30/2008
Time: 11:52:40 PM
User: N/A
Computer: KSTLON0AP002
Description:
The driver detected a controller error on \Device\RaidPort1.
For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 0018000f 00680001 00000000 c004000b
0010: ad010030 00000000 00000000 00000000
0020: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0030: 00000000 c004000b 00000000 00000000
Then this error saying the drive went offline:
Event Type: Error
Event Source: Storage Agents
Event Category: Events
Event ID: 1223
Date: 7/30/2008
Time: 11:52:40 PM
User: N/A
Computer: KSTLON0AP002
Description:
SAS Tape Drive Status Change. The tape drive in Slot 1, Device 6 with serial number "HU10726KDG", has a new status of 3.
(Tape Drive status values: 1=other, 2=ok, 3=offline)
[SNMP TRAP: 5025 in CPQSCSI.MIB]
Data:
0000: 01c0009a 00000003 00000006 03010304
0010: 746f6c53 00003120 00000000 00000000
0020: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0030: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0040: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0050: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0060: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0070: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0080: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0090: 69766544 36206563 00000000 00000000
00a0: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
00b0: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
00c0: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
00d0: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
00e0: 20504800 52544c55 394d5549 44203032
00f0: 00005652 00000000 00000000 00000000
0100: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0110: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0120: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0130: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0140: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0150: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0160: 32430000 00005734 48000000 37303155
0170: 444b3632 00000047 00000000 00000000
0180: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0190: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
01a0: 00000000 00000000 00000000 31303035
01b0: 30413031 38383030 41333239 00000000
01c0: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
01d0: 00000003 00000006 00000000 00000000
01e0: 843504c7 0001000f 00000001 000000ff
01f0: 002c2f00 00000000 009a01c0 ffff000a
0200: 0000ffff 00000000 000c0000 0167008c
0210: 8080000b 80418051 00010001 00000002
0220: 00000004 00040000 00000004 00000000
0230: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0240: 00000002 00000000 0029cb80 00000000
0250: 00000008 00000000
Then 2 minutes later the drive is online again:
Event Type: Information
Event Source: Storage Agents
Event Category: Events
Event ID: 1223
Date: 7/30/2008
Time: 11:54:40 PM
User: N/A
Computer: KSTLON0AP002
Description:
SAS Tape Drive Status Change. The tape drive in Slot 1, Device 6 with serial number "HU10726KDG", has a new status of 2.
(Tape Drive status values: 1=other, 2=ok, 3=offline)
[SNMP TRAP: 5025 in CPQSCSI.MIB]
Data:
0000: 01c0009a 00000003 00000006 02020202
0010: 746f6c53 00003120 00000000 00000000
0020: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0030: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0040: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0050: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0060: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0070: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0080: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0090: 69766544 36206563 00000000 00000000
00a0: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
00b0: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
00c0: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
00d0: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
00e0: 20504800 52544c55 394d5549 44203032
00f0: 00005652 00000000 00000000 00000000
0100: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0110: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0120: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0130: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0140: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0150: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0160: 32430000 00005734 48000000 37303155
0170: 444b3632 00000047 00000000 00000000
0180: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0190: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
01a0: 00000000 00000000 00000000 31303035
01b0: 30413031 38383030 41333239 00000000
01c0: 00000000 00010000 00000000 00000000
01d0: 00000003 00000006 00000000 00000000
01e0: 843504c7 0001000f 00000001 000000ff
01f0: 002c2f00 00000000 009a01c0 ffff000a
0200: 0000ffff 00000000 000c0000 0167008c
0210: 8080000b 80418051 00010001 00000002
0220: 00000004 00040000 00000004 00000000
0230: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0240: 00000002 00000000 0029cb80 00000000
0250: 00000008 00000000
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07-31-2008 06:47 AM
07-31-2008 06:47 AM
Re: Backup problems with MSL2024
Do all of the LSI SAS event entries have the same data starting at offset 0x10? If there are any 0x3...... values that would be useful.
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07-31-2008 08:44 AM
07-31-2008 08:44 AM
Re: Backup problems with MSL2024
Event Type: Error
Event Source: Lsi_sas
Event Category: None
Event ID: 11
Date: 7/30/2008
Time: 4:24:39 PM
User: N/A
Computer: KSTLON0AP002
Description:
The driver detected a controller error on \Device\RaidPort1.
For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 0018000f 00680001 00000000 c004000b
0010: 31140000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0020: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0030: 00000000 c004000b 00000000 00000000
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07-31-2008 08:50 AM
07-31-2008 08:50 AM
Re: Backup problems with MSL2024
Event Type: Warning
Event Source: Lsi_sas
Event Category: None
Event ID: 129
Date: 7/28/2008
Time: 11:44:30 PM
User: N/A
Computer: KSTLON0AP002
Description:
Reset to device, \Device\RaidPort1, was issued.
For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 0010000f 00680001 00000000 80040081
0010: 00000004 00000000 00000000 00000000
0020: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0030: 00000600 80040081
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07-31-2008 10:33 AM
07-31-2008 10:33 AM
Re: Backup problems with MSL2024
That usually means a timeout but doesn't say what timed out. A timeout is consistent with the failure that is corrected by changing the retry count registry entry but doesn't have to be caused by that issue.
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08-01-2008 06:32 AM
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08-01-2008 06:50 AM
08-01-2008 06:50 AM
Re: Backup problems with MSL2024
Even from the HBA perspective the drives should be almost completely independent but they would share the same PCIe link and there is some shared hardware on the HBA.
I would start by making certain that the application was configured properly to use both drives at once. It sounds to me like there may be some hardware that isn't quite right somewhere in the system though. If you haven't already I would suggest you try getting a different SAS cable. If you have a standard SAS cable laying around with IB to mini-SAS ends you can connect it to one drive and see if that solves your communication issues. I'm not convinced the cable is the issue however as that cable is actually 4 cables bundled into one casing but physically completely independent so when there are cable issues it is usually just one link that is bad and switching to a different cable end at the library will make the problem go away.
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04-29-2009 04:46 AM
04-29-2009 04:46 AM
Re: Backup problems with MSL2024
Our system seems to run for longer with only a single drive when we switch one off (but still fails occassionally).
All the firmware, BIOS, drivers are up to date and we have had a drive and SAS card and cable swapped out by support. L&TT reports healthy drives. Still the problem continues, so it looks to be a driver or inherent hardware fault related to "high" loads.
Does anyone have futher updates on this at HP? Seems like a serious issue for many people.
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05-01-2009 07:05 AM
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05-05-2009 11:05 AM
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05-18-2009 06:09 AM
05-18-2009 06:09 AM
Re: Backup problems with MSL2024
I have found a solution for this problem with my tape library.
The problem was with a library device, which had 2 SCSI interfaces, and on the free interface there was no Warp Tool inserted. I think, this SC11Xe HBA does not support automatic termination and Warp Tool should be installed.
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06-11-2009 09:46 AM
06-11-2009 09:46 AM
Re: Backup problems with MSL2024
In the end, the solution was to stop and disable the HP WMI Storage Provider service in Windows.
Just my 2 cents.