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тАО01-28-2005 05:01 AM
тАО01-28-2005 05:01 AM
Re: file corruption with Vms 7.2-2
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тАО01-28-2005 08:28 AM
тАО01-28-2005 08:28 AM
Re: file corruption with Vms 7.2-2
If you investigate I'm sure you will find that the files mentioned in the BADDIRENT, BAD_FIDSEQ, and BAD_DIRFIDSEQ messags were being created and/or deleted while you were running ANAL/DISK. You might also get them for old files if the system crashed, etc. while those files were being created or deleted, but /REPAIR will fix those.
Likewise the errors ALLOCCLR, or its cousins ALLOCSET and DUALLOC, will occur on an active volume. I'm not sure about the ALLOCEXT message but it might also be normal when multitple file headers are involved.
Tbe DELHEADER message is normal even with the disk locked if a file has been marked for delete on close but is still open by an application.
On the other hand I'm not sure why you would get the BADNAMEFORM or BADHEADER messages unless those particular file headers were corrupted.
Bottom line: ANAL/DISK without /REPAIR or DFU VERIFY without /FIX (or /LOCK) are both pretty useless for detecting file corruption on a volume with file activity.
I've always wondered if it would be possible to first scan the volume without /LOCKing it, make a list of *potential* problems, and then do a quick lock/check/unlock for each problem in the list.
This approach wouldn't work for ALLOCCLR errors since you would have to rescan the entire index file to confirm the problem, but ALLOCLCR is just lost space, not real corruption anyway.
However it should allow a real quick check (in terms of how long the volume is locked) for whether ALLOCSET, DUALLOC, BADDIRENT, BAD_FIDSEQ and some other errors detected during an unlocked pass were real errors or not.
I realize this approach would give some false negatives since a real problem with the storage bitmap can, on an active volume, migrate between various files and from being detected as ALLOCSET or as DUALLOC. Still this option would be an extremely valuable tool for detecting real disk corruption without locking large active volumes for several minutes - which is the only option available now
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тАО01-30-2005 11:44 PM
тАО01-30-2005 11:44 PM
Re: file corruption with Vms 7.2-2
probabbly a long shot but it may be of use.
A customer has reported severe file corruption in SAN, and investigation by HP (including DFU's author!) revealed a bug in DFU as defragmenter: in rare cases, bits in the bitmap were marked as free where the blocks were actually allocated to files. (it seems, as has been explained, that a bit set states a block MAY be allocated to a file, and DFU made the wrong assumption sometimes).
This has surely been fixed but I'm not sure if this new version is already available. I'm quite certain it will appear on the next freeware CD.
OpenVMS Developer & System Manager
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тАО01-30-2005 11:54 PM
тАО01-30-2005 11:54 PM
Re: file corruption with Vms 7.2-2
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тАО01-31-2005 12:11 AM
тАО01-31-2005 12:11 AM
Re: file corruption with Vms 7.2-2
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тАО01-31-2005 12:31 AM
тАО01-31-2005 12:31 AM
Re: file corruption with Vms 7.2-2
Willem: DFU (V 2.7) has only been used here by me with dfu verify, so this is not an issue. Thanks for the information.
Fassl: the directory are not so big, the biggest is 7 000 blocks, and a good number are between 500 and 3 000 blocks (which is very bad, but I have already seen much worse).
Goodman: it seems you are right, the files shown by ana/disk/norepair today were created today...
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тАО01-31-2005 11:55 PM
тАО01-31-2005 11:55 PM
Re: file corruption with Vms 7.2-2
I have noticed using
VERIFY/DIRECTORY_SCAN/LOCK
gives the most meaningful results but takes the longest to do. The author of DFU allows you the choice of tradoff. /NODIR is the default.
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тАО02-01-2005 12:21 AM
тАО02-01-2005 12:21 AM
Re: file corruption with Vms 7.2-2
Tahnsk for the info Ian
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тАО02-01-2005 05:26 AM
тАО02-01-2005 05:26 AM
Re: file corruption with Vms 7.2-2
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тАО02-01-2005 06:07 AM
тАО02-01-2005 06:07 AM
Re: file corruption with Vms 7.2-2
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