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09-02-2008 12:12 AM
09-02-2008 12:12 AM
Second thing is that having one logical drive we assumed to see only one drive-letter in windows explorer. We assinged the letter X to our drive but we also see a second drive with the letter I. The two drives have the exact same capacity and if we store files on one of the drives they apear on the other drive the day after. They weird thing is that we cant seem to delete/remove the second drive, it also doenst appear in Disk Management on the server (Small Business Server2003). Could anyone explain why this second drive appears and how to delete/remove/hide it?
All help is appreciated.
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09-02-2008 01:11 AM
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Re: MSA20 RAID 5 two identical drives
In powers of 2, this would be 750/(1.024)^3 = 698.5 GB.
Second, the logical unit that you created was filling all the disk space available?
Third, this MSA20 is connected directly o a server or though a MSA1500?
The MSA20 has only one SCSI connector and disks should be seen only once by the server.
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09-02-2008 02:17 AM
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Re: MSA20 RAID 5 two identical drives
As far as the capacity, I dont think I really understand what you are trying to say with:
"Second, the logical unit that you created was filling all the disk space available?"
Could you please clarify this. Do you mean that the MSA20 only supports 2Tb of space while we have 3Tb so all disk space is filled?
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09-02-2008 03:22 AM
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SolutionDid you create a logical unit using all the available space or a smaller one?
The connection to a SmartArray 6400 is correct, in this case the RAIDs are created on the MSA20 and the SmartArray is only the bridge to the server.
Can you attach a capture of the ACU screen showing what you have created?
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09-02-2008 03:26 AM
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Re: MSA20 RAID 5 two identical drives
No, the size of an individual logical disk is limited to 2TB. The MSA20 has an U320 SCSI interface which cannot deal with LUNs larger than 2TB. However, you can create another logical disk from the remaining space.
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09-02-2008 03:46 AM
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Re: MSA20 RAID 5 two identical drives
> Did you create a logical unit using all the available space or a smaller one? <
At the time of configuring the MSA I didnt now there was a limit so as far as I know we tried to attach all available space.
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09-02-2008 03:52 AM
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Re: MSA20 RAID 5 two identical drives
Now, can you attach a screenshot from device manager - disks, and from disk manager?
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09-02-2008 04:14 AM
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Re: MSA20 RAID 5 two identical drives
We assigned a spare because it was recommended during configuration of the array. Do you know if a spare really is nessecary?
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09-02-2008 04:28 AM
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Re: MSA20 RAID 5 two identical drives
This is confirmed on the disk manager, disk 0 of 273 GB, and disk 1 of 1397 GB.
There are 5 storage volumes, 4 partitions in the internal disk and 1 on the MSA20, so you should have 5 drive letters assigned to disks.
Drive I: is not being assigned from disk manager (disk 1 = X:). So you'll have to investigate in Windows where does it come from.
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09-02-2008 04:56 AM
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09-03-2008 01:40 AM
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09-03-2008 01:53 AM
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Re: MSA20 RAID 5 two identical drives
Otherwise you have to monitor your system and manually swap the disk. You do have an unused disk lying around? Can you afford to run without RAID protection until a replacement part has been shipped to you?
(hot) spare or not. I've once read the definition that a 'hot' spare is already spinning while a 'simple' spare is not.
Unfortunately, different arrays use different terminology and these days disk drives are starting automatically anyway. By that definition, all spares are 'hot'.
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09-03-2008 03:23 AM
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Re: MSA20 RAID 5 two identical drives
Stil one question left and that is why I see two new identical drives in Windows Explorer with the same amount of free space but different drive-letters. I just did a complete new configuration and deleted the old one. As soon as I assigned a drive letter to the logical drive in Disk Management the two drives became visible. In disk management only one disk is visible. Any explanation would be helpful.
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09-04-2008 01:46 AM
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Re: MSA20 RAID 5 two identical drives
When opening properties I noticed that the server sees two logical volumes while only having one. I included a screenshot from this. It says that write caching is enabled. Could this be the reason, that the server created one drive for caching? Would that also be the reason that I cannot see the second drive (I) in disk management?
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09-04-2008 02:28 AM
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Re: MSA20 RAID 5 two identical drives
Is there anything interesting in the Windows Event Log?
Can you attach the output from the following command as a text file (no Word document ;-), please?
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C:\>reg query HKLM\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\Scsi /s > scsi_%COMPUTERNAME%.txt
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09-09-2008 05:43 AM
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Re: MSA20 RAID 5 two identical drives
many thanks in advance!
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09-11-2008 05:14 AM
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09-11-2008 05:40 AM
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Re: MSA20 RAID 5 two identical drives
There a two disks which are seen through the same controller port:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\Scsi\Scsi Port 5\Scsi Bus 1\Target Id 0\Logical Unit Id 0
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\Scsi\Scsi Port 5\Scsi Bus 1\Target Id 1\Logical Unit Id 0
Can you open the device manager and use [View->Devices by connection]? This gives a hierarchical overview. I'll attach a picture with an example drill-down.
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09-11-2008 05:52 AM
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09-15-2008 12:45 AM
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09-15-2008 09:30 PM
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Re: MSA20 RAID 5 two identical drives
I've tried to understand the data, but I have some problems as there are some inconsistencies:
The picture that you uploaded on Sep 2, 2008 12:14:41 contains two parts. In the upper part, the Disk0 contains 4 partitions, but they don't have drive letters assigned to them.
However, the screenshot from Sep 2, 2008 11:46:31 shows 4 drive letters (C:, D: E:, F:), which I guess belong to Disk0.
The SCSI device map and the screenshot from the device manager show that there are two disk provided by the SmartArray 6400 (scsi5), but they don't seem to be visible in the screenshots from Sep 2, 2008 12:14:41 GMT.
Can you provide an ACU screenshot similar to the one from Sep 2, 2008 11:46:31 GMT, but this time choose the SmartArray 6400?
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09-16-2008 01:12 AM
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09-16-2008 11:17 PM
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Re: MSA20 RAID 5 two identical drives
It looks better now, lets see if we can get some more details. Could you please execute the following commands, store the files in a folder and put everything in a .ZIP file?
wmic diskdrive > diskdrive.txt
wmic logicaldisk > logicaldisk.txt
wmic partition > partition.txt
wmic shadowcopy > shadowcopy.txt
wmic shadowstorage > shadowstorage.txt
wmic volume> volume.txt
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09-16-2008 11:27 PM
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Re: MSA20 RAID 5 two identical drives
[Wow, that is a cool screenshot ;-)]
Yes, we have 30 inch monitors turned 90degrees sideways :)
I'll gather all the information again and keep you posted!