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03-31-2004 03:07 AM
03-31-2004 03:07 AM
1. It appears and from what I have read that running the EVA 3000 in a single HBA single path environment requires that I zone off each individual connection of the EVA. Is this correct? The pictures I have seen of running the EVA have it connected to two separate fabrics. Can I run it in a single fabric by zoning off all the connections and only presenting a single connection on the EVA to each server (I then just balance the four connections among the servers).
2. I have VCS 3.0.10 (I think, I may be off a decimal point) and after going through the merry go round of different people I was able to acquire the Command View software on my SMA-II to manage it. I have initialized the storage and even presented a LUN. What I have run into is that when I originally tried to configure all 35 of my disk drives under one disk group the amount of usable space is only around 2 TB (VRAID5). However, when I configure two default disk groups 17 and 18 drives apiece, the amount of usable space is 1.7 and 1.8 GB (VRAID5). Is there a physical disk limit for the amount of disks in a disk group? I was under the impression that strictly for performance one disk group is the optimal configuration. The problem that I am running into is that I think I ought to see more usable space then 2 TB's when I configure the group this way. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Basically can I configure all 35 disk drives under one group and assuming I have the group set for single drive failure, what is the usable space I ought to expect?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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03-31-2004 07:31 AM
03-31-2004 07:31 AM
SolutionFirst off, do you mean 4 controllers, or 4 FC-Ports over 2 controllers on the EVA3000? I would guess the latter.
1. You are correct for single-HBA implementation. Zone a single EVA port with each server. Don't forget a Management zone with the Appliance and one port of each EVA controller. See this doc from HP for Single Path implenetation:
ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/products/storageworks/whitepapers/5982-1850EN.pdf
2. Having an odd number of disks in an EVA is not recommended, but it will work. The largest LUN size you can create on an EVA is 2TB, no matter how big your disk group or whatever vraid level. All disks in the EVA can be in a single disk group - there's no limit, apart from the limit of how many disks the EVA itself can support (in your case, 56). For performance it's recommended to have just 1 disk group.
Setting the group to single drive redundancy means the EVA will reserve 2x the largest physical disk size for spare space = 288GB. For vraid1 you'll lose another 146GB for having an odd number of disks. So you'll have about 2.2TB of space if you use only vraid1 (50% raid overhead), and I'd guess about 3.8TB for only vraid5 (20% raid overhead). Also, 146GB disks have less than 146GB usable space. Mixing Vraid1 and Vraid5 in your disk group will give you usable space between those 2 limits.
Have a look here for EVA best practices:
ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/products/storageworks/whitepapers/EVA_Best_Practices_White_Paper.pdf
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Stephen
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03-31-2004 11:42 PM
03-31-2004 11:42 PM
Re: EVA 3000
Capacity
Total: 4506.06 GB
Available:
Vraid0 2047.99 GB
Vraid1 2047.99 GB
Vraid5 2047.99 GB
From what you have stated I ought to read this as I can create a single LUN with the different various RAID levels with the maximum size of 2047.99. This 2047.99 is not the total amount of disk space I have available to create LUNS. That number is based on which raid level I use. VRAID1 is 50% or as you stated about 2.2 TB and VRAID5 accounting for its overhead will be around 3.8 TB (20% overhead). Am I correct in the assumption that how much disk space that is available for LUN creation is something I need to calculate as it does not appear on the appliance?
One more quick question, I currently have been managing 3 EMA 12000's for two years where the actual LUN number (D10 etc..) had a lot of significance, with the EVA, does the LUN number assigned to the VRAID have any significance?
Thanks again for replying.
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04-01-2004 03:08 AM
04-01-2004 03:08 AM
Re: EVA 3000
When you create a VDisk, you tell it how much storage you want to appear at the host. It does the calculations and uses as much physical capacity as it needs to present the desired amount.
The LUN number simply sets the presentation order of the VDisks to the specific host.
Note: While I am an HPE Employee, all of my comments (whether noted or not), are my own and are not any official representation of the company
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04-01-2004 09:59 PM
04-01-2004 09:59 PM
Re: EVA 3000
A virtual disk on the EVA is more like a container on the HSG. The EVA has more flexibility to assign a virtual disk to different LUN addresses of different hosts.
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04-02-2004 04:01 PM
04-02-2004 04:01 PM
Re: EVA 3000
With the EVA, you can have multiple hosts all with the same "LUN ID" being presented to the OS. You do not have to do and fancy connection offsets that need to be re-created if you have to delete the connection because the host hardware/HBA changed.
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04-03-2004 12:13 AM
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Re: EVA 3000
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04-03-2004 04:19 AM
04-03-2004 04:19 AM
Re: EVA 3000
are you sure that the virtual disk has not been expanded? Note that the partition has a size recorded that, of course, cannot be changed with CommandView EVA. If you rescan the disks or reboot the server, doesn't Windows show some unpartitioned free space at the end of the disk?
I have not tried it myself, yet, but according to the documentation you need to alter the partition table with Microsofts DISKPART utility or use HP's "OpenView Storage Volume Growth" product.
http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/storage/software/svg/index.html
The first method is described in the 'Installation and Configuration Guide' for Windows (AA-RUGZB-TE) on page 31.
If I recall correctly, you can expand a Raid-5 set on the HSG one time with another Raid-5 set by joining both together with a 'concatset'.
Mike,
I agree that host management has become much easier because you map a virtual disk to a LUN address for an entire host and can add/remove port wWNs without impact.
'fancy connection offsets' (have you really fallen in love with them? ;-) had multiple uses on the HSG:
- map another 0..7 LUN range from the HSG's global unit address space into the limited address range of a SCSI-2 driver. That allows different servers to access different units. E.g. connection offsets for server A are 0, so he can access units D0..7 and connection offsets for server B are 10, so he can access units D10..17 and need not share the range with A.
Some people have also used this to avoid LUN masking (A cannot address anything beyound D7 and B is limited to D10..17), but I hope they have fixed it before turning on large LUN adressing...
- allow a single fibre channel adapter with a SCSI-2 driver to access more than 8 LUNs through different controller ports by giving each connection a different connection offset. E.g. connection offset to Port_1 is 0, so FCA sees D0..D7 and connection offset to Port_2 is 10, so the same FCA sees D10..D17 here. I am talking about MULTIBUS_FAILOVER, here.
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04-04-2004 03:42 PM
04-04-2004 03:42 PM
Re: EVA 3000
I have a co-worker that would ALWAYS forget to check the AIX connections for Unit offsets. He would set something up, and I usually had to go "FIX" the connection offsets to make it work.
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04-04-2004 10:17 PM
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