add a new project on the K460 server

[Hanry Zhou]

Hi,

The client wants to add a new project onto a existing server which is currently running SAS application and Oracle. This new project basically will pull out data from the other servers, update database, and ftp some files from other applications.

What I want to find out is how much cpu and memrory, as well as data sapce the new project will use. But I am not sure what is the appropriate questions should ask to the client. What(documents?) I need from them in order to proceed with the implementation of the project.

Thanks,

[Bill Hassell]

There is no way to advise you on disk space. Someone may want to ftp 500Gb files, so tell your client to order 5-10 terabytes to handle the worst case. (note that this is an exagerration to prove the point). As far as CPU and memory, since this is a K460 (very old technology) running two (potentially) very system-intensive products, the system may alraedy be maxed out, both memory and CPU's. You'll have to measure what the load is now to see if there is any room for more applications. ftp isn't much of a CPU load but depending on disk layout and where the ftp'd files are located, it could seriously impact Oracle (and therefore, SAP). The task to pull the data from other servers and update the local system could double or even quadruple the load on the current system depending on how fast the transactions will occur.

This is a project that sounds like it needs a replacement server, one that allows much arger memory, faster CPUs and perhaps a different disk or maybe an array.

[Hemanth Gurunath Basrur]

Hi Hanry,

How much CPU, memory and data space the new project will use depend on the requirement of the client.

You may probably have to get a statement of work from the client and proceed from there. Later, based on the client's requirements, you can come up with a recommendations document and get it approved from the client.

Enclosed, please find a sample statement of work.

http://byrdseyeview.com/docMidSOW.htm

HTH.

Regards,
Hemanth

[Tim D Fulford]

More input.
To even have a chance at answering the question you need to know EXACTLY what needs to be done. You should be asking these questions to the people that are asking you to implement this. that said you can, practically, move it forwards in a few ways.
1 - Test your requirements (test/dev/system NOT LIVE). This will solidify the requirements VERY quickly. Once you have tested it it should be simple to say how much CPU/DISK/Network is required. This could be complicated as the answers could depend on the current working system, so you may need to replicate EVERY thing on the live system!!
2 - MeasureWare, measure what you are currently doing NOW. This may lead you to the conclusion, it can't be done!

I hope some of teh above helps

Regards

Tim

[Hanry Zhou]

Hi,

I did not make myself clear, so I'm trying it again here.

I'm not asking the exactly figure on the requirment of needed cpu/memory/disk from the new project, although I know this is something the client should provide to us.

Currently, the client just tell us they need to put the project on the box, and the project will pull data from other servers, it also needs update database and networking activity as well. I feel that is not enough, we need to know what exactly the impact on the box, and get a clear picture of what the project about.

But I don't know how to approach to the client, and what exactly I need from them.

There was a response which reffer me to a link about the project management, however, I could not find it today. Can this guy send me the linke again?

You probably still don't get what I'm asking, but this is the best I can do.

Thanks,

[Hemanth Gurunath Basrur · Accepted solution]

Hello Hanry,

OK. Your second explanation is clear and I understand that you want to know the impact on HP-UX box after the project is created in the box. Also, you want to ask questions to the client and you feel that merely just creating a new project would not suffice.

You may want to have a look at this document HP-UX 11i Version 1 Installation and Update Guide on http://docs.hp.com. Probably this should help.

http://docs.hp.com/cgi-bin/fsearch/framedisplay?top=/hpux/onlinedocs/5187-3614/5187-3614_top.html&con=/hpux/onlinedocs/5187-3614/00/00/24-con.html&toc=/hpux/onlinedocs/5187-3614/00/00/24-toc.html&searchterms=on%7ca%7cHP-UX%7cbox%7cimpact&queryid=20031006-205545

Also, do have a look at HP-UX 11i Release Notes. The link is

http://docs.hp.com/cgi-bin/fsearch/framedisplay?top=/hpux/onlinedocs/5187-2255/5187-2255_top.html&con=/hpux/onlinedocs/5187-2255/00/00/55-con.html&toc=/hpux/onlinedocs/5187-2255/00/00/55-toc.html&searchterms=on%7ca%7cHP-UX%7cbox%7cimpact&queryid=20031006-205545

Also, go through the following documents:

Read Before Installing or Updating to HP-UX 11i

http://docs.hp.com/hpux/onlinedocs/5187-0168/5187-0168.pdf

Read Before Installing or Updating to HP-UX 11.0

http://docs.hp.com/hpux/pdf/5187-2270.pdf

Also, have a look at the DSPP pages:

HP-UX Technologies:
http://h21007.www2.hp.com/dspp/topic/topic_PETechnologyDetailPage_IDX/1,2603,10002,00.html

Port or Migrate:
http://h21007.www2.hp.com/dspp/topic/topic_PETaskDetailPage_IDX/1,,10314,00.html

For project management training, attend the following online class:

http://www.hplearningcenter.com/course/course.jsp?courseId=1842

HTH.

Regards,
Hemanth