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Re: adding emc control center 6.1 agents = unhappy hpux servers (11.11/11.31)

 
Manuel Contreras
Regular Advisor

adding emc control center 6.1 agents = unhappy hpux servers (11.11/11.31)

recently migrated from 5.2 to 6.1 EMC control center.

proceeded to upgrade the master/host agents in our hp server env....when I encountered the following issues:

# ipcs -mop
IPC status from /dev/kmem as of Thu Jul 9 08:47:27 2009
T ID KEY MODE OWNER GROUP NATTCH CPID LPID
Shared Memory:
m 0 0x411c0846 --rw-rw-rw- root root 0 1378 1378
m 1 0x4e0c0002 --rw-rw-rw- root root 1 1378 1378
m 2 0x412003ff --rw-rw-rw- root root 1 1378 1390
m 12363 0x5e1806a5 --rw------- root root 1 2470 2470
m 844 0x671486f4 --rw-r----- oracle dba 9 4084 4173
m 365 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 6426 6426
m 6 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 2540 2540
m 7 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 2540 2540
m 8 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 2540 2540
m 9 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 2540 2540
m 10 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 2540 2540
m 11 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 2540 2540
m 12 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 2540 2540
m 13 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 2540 2540
m 14 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 2540 2540
m 15 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 2540 2540
m 16 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 2540 2540
m 17 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 2540 2540
m 18 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 2540 2540
m 19 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 2540 2540
m 20 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 2540 2540
m 21 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 2540 2540
m 22 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 2540 2540
m 23 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 2540 2540
m 24 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 2540 2540
m 25 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 2540 2540
m 26 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 2540 2540
m 27 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 2540 2540
m 28 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 2540 2540
m 29 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 2540 2540
m 30 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 2540 2540
m 31 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 2540 2540
m 32 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 2540 2540
m 33 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 2540 2540
m 34 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 2540 2540
m 35 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 2540 2540
m 36 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 2540 2540
m 37 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 2540 2540
m 38 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 2540 2540
m 39 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 2540 2540
m 40 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 2540 2540
m 41 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 2540 2540
m 42 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 2540 2540
m 43 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 2540 2540
m 44 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 2540 2540
m 45 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 2540 2540
m 46 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 2540 2540
m 47 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 2540 2540
m 48 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 2540 2540
m 49 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 2540 2540
m 50 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 2540 2540
m 51 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 2540 2540
m 52 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 2540 2540
m 53 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 2540 2540
m 54 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 2540 2540
m 55 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 2540 2540
m 56 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 2540 2540
m 57 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 2540 2540
m 58 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 2540 2540
m 59 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 2540 2540
m 60 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 2540 2540
m 61 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 2540 2540
m 62 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 2540 2540
m 63 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 2540 2540
m 64 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 2540 2540
m 65 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 2540 2540
m 66 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 2540 2540
m 67 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 2540 2540
m 68 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 2540 2540
m 69 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 2540 2540
m 70 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 2540 2540
m 71 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 2540 2540
m 432 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 6426 6426
m 193 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 6426 6426
m 194 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 6426 6426
m 195 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 6426 6426
m 76 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 6426 6426
m 77 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 6426 6426
m 78 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 6426 6426
m 79 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 6426 6426
m 80 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 6426 6426
m 81 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 6426 6426
m 82 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 6426 6426
m 83 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 6426 6426
m 84 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 6426 6426
m 85 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 6426 6426
m 86 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 6426 6426
m 87 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 6426 6426
m 88 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 6426 6426
m 89 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 6426 6426
m 90 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 6426 6426
m 91 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 6426 6426
m 92 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 6426 6426
m 93 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 6426 6426
m 94 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 6426 6426
m 95 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 6426 6426
m 96 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 6426 6426
m 97 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 6426 6426
m 98 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 6426 6426
m 99 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 6426 6426
m 100 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 6426 6426
m 101 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 6426 6426
m 102 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 6426 6426
m 103 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 6426 6426
m 104 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 6426 6426
m 105 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 6426 6426
m 106 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 6426 6426
m 107 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 6426 6426
m 108 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 6426 6426
m 109 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 6426 6426
m 110 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 6426 6426
m 111 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 6426 6426
m 112 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 6426 6426
m 113 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 6426 6426
m 114 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 6426 6426
m 115 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 6426 6426
m 116 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 6426 6426
m 117 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 6426 6426
m 118 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 6426 6426
m 119 0x00000000 D-rw------- root root 1 6426 6426
#

all 2540 segments, are associated w/the ecc master agent

and

all 6426 segments are associated with the ecc host agent.

ecc v5.2 never did this :(

The number of segments are causing my Data Protector Backups to fail - memory allocation errors.

Agents have been DEACTIVATED.

I have been working with both HP and EMC support on this issue.

When HP informed me that they were unable to identify anything wrong w/my server configuration, I thought I saw a glimmer of light at-the-end-of-the-tunnel....NOT!

EMC labs don't think there is anything wrong with there 6.1 agents, and the number of memory segments.


I am now begining to wonder If I am the only hpux customer running 6.1


Is anyone encountering similar memory issues on there hpux/ecc 6.1 environments?


all input would be appreciated...

thank you,
manuel
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Steven E. Protter
Exalted Contributor

Re: adding emc control center 6.1 agents = unhappy hpux servers (11.11/11.31)

Shalom,

EMC labs doesn't think there is anything wrong with the agents? Except that you upgraded and now things are broken.

I would try a reboot. If that does not work, I would revert back to the 5.2 agent.

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Manuel Contreras
Regular Advisor

Re: adding emc control center 6.1 agents = unhappy hpux servers (11.11/11.31)

EMC Labs said they also encounter similar memory segments, but don't experience any adverse effects in the lab...

Checking now to see if 6.1 w/5.2 agents is supported.

thanks
Turgay Cavdar
Honored Contributor

Re: adding emc control center 6.1 agents = unhappy hpux servers (11.11/11.31)

Hi we are using EMC CC 6.1. (With a patch level to support hp-ux 11.31). I looked at my 11.31's and there are nearly 100 shared memory segments belongs to ECC processes. Up to now we havent seen any issue about a lot of shared memory segments.

So the problem here is why HP dataprotector effected by other processes shared memory segment usage. I also dont think that using number of shared memory segment is wrong. Did you tune shmseg and shmmni?
Dennis Handly
Acclaimed Contributor

Re: adding emc control center 6.1 agents = unhappy hpux servers (11.11/11.31)

>The number of segments are causing my Data Protector Backups to fail - memory allocation errors.

What does "swapinfo -tam" show when running Data Protector?
What are the sizes of those segments, "ipcs -ma".

>HP informed me that they were unable to identify anything wrong with my server configuration

Was this HP-UX or Data Protector support?

>turgay: So the problem here is why HP Data Protector effected by other processes shared memory segment usage.

Well, if the total is 1 Gb, you may not be able to have any more for 32 bit processes.

>I also don't think that using number of shared memory segment is wrong. Did you tune shmseg and shmmni?

Yes, if shmmni(5) is too small, that will cause problems.

For 11.23, you can use kcusage(1m) to track how close to hitting the limit.
Manuel Contreras
Regular Advisor

Re: adding emc control center 6.1 agents = unhappy hpux servers (11.11/11.31)

Turgay,
Does your emc agent segments have a "D" value...at least in my env. they do.

from the ipcs man-page:

D
The associated shared memory segment has been removed.
It will disappear when the last process attached to the segment detaches it.

they NEVER go away.





Dennis,

Initially started w/HP DP support, but ended w/HP Unix support.

HP did not find anything wrong on the server side.


11.11 shm* values:

Parameter Current Dyn Planned Module Version
===============================================================================
shmem 1 - 1
Parameter Current Dyn Planned Module Version
===============================================================================
shmmax 4294963200 Y 4294963200
Parameter Current Dyn Planned Module Version
===============================================================================
shmmni 1024 - 1024
Parameter Current Dyn Planned Module Version
===============================================================================
shmmni_extended 120 - 120
Parameter Current Dyn Planned Module Version
===============================================================================
shmseg 120 Y 120



# swapinfo -tam
Mb Mb Mb PCT START/ Mb
TYPE AVAIL USED FREE USED LIMIT RESERVE PRI NAME
dev 4096 0 4096 0% 0 - 1 /dev/vg00/lvol2
reserve - 746 -746
memory 13172 779 12393 6%
total 17268 1525 15743 9% - 0 -


With regard to DP env,
11.11 box has an attached LTO3 library, the following DP errors are encountered when EMC agents are active:

[Critical] From: BMA-NET@MAserver.com "OAK02-LTO3-Drive2" Time: 07/09/09 09:06:15
IPC Cannot Create Shared Memory Segment
[Critical] From: BMA-NET@MAserver.com "OAK02-LTO3-Drive3" Time: 07/09/09 09:06:36
IPC Cannot Create Shared Memory Segment
[Normal] From: VBDA@DAserver.com "/opt" Time: 07/09/09 09:06:34
STARTING Disk Agent for DAserver.com:/opt "/opt".


EMC said no to my question on 5.2 agents w/6.1 ECC server, it is not supported :(
They are now indicating we can try turning off some ssl security settings on the agents to address the memory segments...


Data Protector is only one application I was able to identify...don't feel comfortable running 6.1 agents in production environments in their current state.


beginning to feel like a beta tester :(
Turgay Cavdar
Honored Contributor

Re: adding emc control center 6.1 agents = unhappy hpux servers (11.11/11.31)

Yes they have "D" options. But dont wait the segments to disappear unless you kill agent processes. Did you try to increase shmmni such as 4096?
Dennis Handly
Acclaimed Contributor

Re: adding emc control center 6.1 agents = unhappy hpux servers (11.11/11.31)

>11.11 shm* values:

Do you have the "ipcs -ma" output so we can sum up the segments?
Manuel Contreras
Regular Advisor

Re: adding emc control center 6.1 agents = unhappy hpux servers (11.11/11.31)

# ipcs -ma
IPC status from /dev/kmem as of Tue Jul 14 14:11:14 2009
T ID KEY MODE OWNER GROUP CREATOR CGROUP NATTCH SEGSZ CPID LPID ATIME DTIME CTIME
Shared Memory:
m 0 0x411c0846 --rw-rw-rw- root root root root 0 348 1379 1379 3:25:58 3:25:58 3:25:51
m 1 0x4e0c0002 --rw-rw-rw- root root root root 1 61760 1379 1379 3:25:54 3:25:58 3:25:51
m 2 0x41200242 --rw-rw-rw- root root root root 1 8192 1379 1391 3:25:54 3:25:51 3:25:51
m 12363 0x5e18000d --rw------- root root root root 1 512 2431 2431 3:38:18 no-entry 3:38:18
m 2764 0x671486f4 --rw-r----- oracle dba oracle dba 10 555712512 26166 26196 13:52:50 13:52:50 13:52:30
m 1325 0x00000000 D-rw------- root sys root sys 1 4096 26397 26397 14:10:31 no-entry 14:10:31
m 1206 0x00000000 D-rw------- root sys root sys 1 4096 26397 26397 14:10:31 no-entry 14:10:31
m 1327 0x00000000 D-rw------- root sys root sys 1 4096 26397 26397 14:10:31 no-entry 14:10:31
m 1208 0x00000000 D-rw------- root sys root sys 1 4096 26397 26397 14:10:31 no-entry 14:10:31
m 1809 0x00000000 D-rw------- root sys root sys 1 4096 26397 26397 14:10:31 no-entry 14:10:31
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m 470 0x00000000 D-rw------- root sys root sys 1 4096 26400 26400 14:10:56 no-entry 14:10:56
m 471 0x00000000 D-rw------- root sys root sys 1 4096 26400 26400 14:10:56 no-entry 14:10:56
m 472 0x00000000 D-rw------- root sys root sys 1 4096 26400 26400 14:10:56 no-entry 14:10:56
m 473 0x00000000 D-rw------- root sys root sys 1 4096 26400 26400 14:10:56 no-entry 14:10:56
m 474 0x00000000 D-rw------- root sys root sys 1 4096 26400 26400 14:10:56 no-entry 14:10:56
m 475 0x00000000 D-rw------- root sys root sys 1 4096 26400 26400 14:10:56 no-entry 14:10:56
m 476 0x00000000 D-rw------- root sys root sys 1 4096 26400 26400 14:10:56 no-entry 14:10:56
m 477 0x00000000 D-rw------- root sys root sys 1 4096 26400 26400 14:10:56 no-entry 14:10:56
m 478 0x00000000 D-rw------- root sys root sys 1 4096 26400 26400 14:10:56 no-entry 14:10:56
m 479 0x00000000 D-rw------- root sys root sys 1 4096 26400 26400 14:10:56 no-entry 14:10:56
#

individual segment size * number of ecc specific segments

4096 * 115 = 471040

Dennis Handly
Acclaimed Contributor

Re: adding emc control center 6.1 agents = unhappy hpux servers (11.11/11.31)

># ipcs -ma ... individual segment size * number of ecc specific segments: 4096 * 115 = 471040

I get about that.
It seems inefficient to get such small shared memory segments of 4 Kb each. Starting with larger sizes would really reduce the number.
Manuel Contreras
Regular Advisor

Re: adding emc control center 6.1 agents = unhappy hpux servers (11.11/11.31)

found out today that the shmmni_extended kernel value overwrites your shmmni value.


change kernel parm:
shmmni_extended from 120 to 0

# grep shm /stand/system
shmmax 4294963200
shmmni 1024

now I can perform a successful Data Protector backup, with EMC ecc agents active.

number of segments was also allowed to increase:
# ipcs -mop | wc
138 1237 10272

working w/EMC support to disable some of agent options to try and reduce the number of segments.

thank you all for your input,
manuel
Manuel Contreras
Regular Advisor

Re: adding emc control center 6.1 agents = unhappy hpux servers (11.11/11.31)

Apparently the excessive memory segment issues are associated with Libraries provided by a 3rd party company.

The EMC engineers are actively working with this company, but unfortunately NO time frame can be provided as to when the issue will be corrected.

I have verified that these issues are not encountered in the previous version of ECC, V6.0.

manuel
future ECC 6.0 user :P