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10-03-2004 02:46 PM
10-03-2004 02:46 PM
As you know, in UNIX world, almost all of the system admin and support tasks need 'root' to perform. It seems hard to hand over the root account.
I would like to seek your advice and the common practice of your site on this area. Thanks
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10-03-2004 03:03 PM
10-03-2004 03:03 PM
SolutionAS far as oracle and others, root gives you those powers as well.
Our site leaves me the admin with administrative passwords including root. Operations also has them because certain functions have not been converted to sudo. Also being a small shop management wants somebody besides me to know the passwords.
All admin passwords for the organization are kept on an admin password list in operations. As a practical matter, operations rarely uses these passwords unless I tell them too.
An admin can not do his job without root password.
As another practical matter, if the job does not require root, I don't use it. Its too powerful. We have application owners for everything from the oracle database to the print spool.
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10-03-2004 03:30 PM
10-03-2004 03:30 PM
Re: Administrator account control
In my view, it depends on your site requirements and how safe and secure, your company wants it's data to be . And it is best to leave it to the business owners. It is not unusual to restrict 'root' access in financial institutions, government organizations etc.,. For them, the person using 'root' is just like anyone in the company that shouldn't have access to sensitive data unless required to.
Not having root access can introduce procedural delays and downtime. But if the business is willing to take that risk, then you will not have a choice.
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10-03-2004 03:35 PM
10-03-2004 03:35 PM
Re: Administrator account control
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10-03-2004 04:47 PM
10-03-2004 04:47 PM
Re: Administrator account control
Yes. I worked in two such companies so far. In one company which is a bank, the root was always disabled but we could 'su' to it. No normal su was available on the box. We customized Seos's SU such that two SAs will have to authorize to get a successful su to root. And all the root sessions were audited.
In the another company, we never had root password. When we needed root, upon an approved change ticket, access was provided temporarily for the change window. There were quite a few issues with root not readily available but that didn't change their position.
I was really frustated with the first experience as it was the first time I realized that sysadmins could be treated like others. But as I continued to understand their business, I started appreciating the reason behind it.
In other experiences, I never had any trouble having root to myself.
As I said before, it is dependent on the how company wants to protect it's data. While security is very important, they would need to understand the risks behind restricting everything too much and sometimes it can result in bringing down the business.
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10-04-2004 06:56 PM
10-04-2004 06:56 PM
Re: Administrator account control
Its all to easy to login as root, or to switch user, when you really don't have to. With a bit of thinking, and skillful manipulation of ownerships, groups, and permissions, a lot can be acheived without it.
More and more OS's are moving towards the SE-Linux style Mandatory-Access-Control, and very soon this will no longer be an issue.
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10-04-2004 09:37 PM
10-04-2004 09:37 PM
Re: Administrator account control
Would you please tell me more about the SE-Linux style Mandatory-Access-Control? Thanks.
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10-04-2004 09:47 PM
10-04-2004 09:47 PM
Re: Administrator account control
Here are some sources of information:
http://selinux.sourceforge.net/
http://www.nsa.gov/selinux/info/docs.cfm