Backup options on HPUX-Itanium 11.31

[CJENSEN_1]

Hi Everyone,
We currently have a RP5470, HPUX 11.11, and use fbackup for our backups. We plan on evolving our platform to HPUX Itanium (one of the rx servers, or itanium blades), most likely running 11.31. I have heard rumours that fbackup is being discontinued. What will be my options for backups on 11.31 itanium?
Thanks everyone...

[Robert-Jan Goossens_1]

Hi,

HP-UX 11i Version 3 Release Notes: HP 9000 and HP Integrity Servers

http://h20565.www2.hpe.com/hpsc/doc/public/display?sp4ts.oid=3367737&docLocale=en_US&docId=emr_na-c04609072

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The commands fbackup, frecover, and ftio are deprecated. In a future HP-UX release, the ability to create new archives using the fbackup or ftio commands will be discontinued. Support will be continued for archive retrieval. You should stop using fbackup and ftio for creating archives, and the standard pax command (portable archive interchange) should be used as a favored replacement to create archives.
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Regards,
Robert-Jan

[Steven E. Protter]

Shalom,

fbackup and frecovery deprecated. Wow that is like losing a trusted friend.

From what I hear they will be replaced as part of the replacement of sam.

Their capabilities are limited however and going with Veritas netbackup or HP Data Protector provides you much more flexibility.

SEP

[Steven E. Protter]

Ah,

I read the notice.

They are moving toward standardized utilities like pax and tar. Makes the operation of the OS more in imitation of the open source world.

Makes sense in a twisted kind of way.

SEP

[James R. Ferguson]

Hi:

Sadly, this is documented in the manpages for 'fbackup' and 'frecover' at 11.31.

The 'pax' utility has been enhanced to support archiving files larger than 8GB in size and/or those with very large UID/GID values.

This feature is supported with '-x pax' in 11.31. A backport for 11.23 exists as the 'pax_enh' product:

http://h20392.www2.hp.com/portal/swdepot/displayProductInfo.do?productNumber=PAX-ENH

Regards!

...JRF...

[Avinash20]

Posting this thread to share my experience with fbackup and pax.
This will help you !!

https://community.hpe.com/t5/HP-UX/ct-p/itrc-117

[Bill Hassell]

The enterprise class features of fbackup/frecover are not available in pax, so you'll have to purchase Data Protector from HP, or perhaps another commercial backup program. What you will lose without fbackup:

- Unlimited filesize backups (hundreds of GB)
- Complete index at front of each tape
- Obtain complete index in a few seconds from any tape in a backup set
- High speed search capability to retrieve any file in a few minutes
- Recovery from tape errors
- Ability to use ultra-speed tape drives such as LTO-3 at full speed (multi-threaded reads)
- Protection from overwriting previous tape in a multi-tape backup

A very important feature missing from fbackup (and all the free tools like tar, cpio, pax, etc) is a central database of every tape and contents. Data Protector (and some other commercial products) have this capability.

[CJENSEN_1]

In talking with our HP rep, fbackup is now put back into 11.31. Good news!

[James R. Ferguson · Accepted solution]

Hi:

> In talking with our HP rep, fbackup is now put back into 11.31.

It was never removed from 11.31; only marked to be obsolesced after 11.31. There is a new 'fbackup' label record written to the archive that prevents tape archives made on 11.31 from being restored (with 'frecover') on earlier systems. This is documented in the manpages, though.

Regards!

...JRF...

[OldSchool]

as noted...fbackup was never *gone*. the "depreciated" means don't count on it for future releases.

It's also not backwards compatible (see prev. post)

They are giving you fair warning to move to something else...

[CJENSEN_1]

Thanks everyone

[Marlou Everson]

Also, I find it interesting that creating a DRD clone uses fbackup/frecover.

Marlou