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04-05-2005 01:55 AM
04-05-2005 01:55 AM
Disk utilization on 9i oracle.
Thanks in advance,
Charlie
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04-05-2005 01:58 AM
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Re: Disk utilization on 9i oracle.
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Re: Disk utilization on 9i oracle.
How is cache set up?? And ststic or dynamic??
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04-05-2005 02:20 AM
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Re: Disk utilization on 9i oracle.
The redos and archives are separte filesystems. Just all the .dbf files are in one big filesystem.
There is only 512 cache on those EVA's so it has to go to disk all the time. we have 16gig of memory on the server side.
Also, 90% of connection to the EVA goes over one controller on the EVA side. We have to split that up.
Any other idea's? Is there lock limit it could be hitting with all .dbf files in one directory?
Thanks,
Charlie
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04-05-2005 02:37 AM
04-05-2005 02:37 AM
Re: Disk utilization on 9i oracle.
What values in $ORACLE_HOME/dbs/init
db_block_buffers
shared_pool_size
log_checkpoint_interval
log_buffer
db_file_multiblock_read_count
sort_area_size
What values for dbc_max_pct and dbc_min_pct?? What output for:
#sar -b 6 30
Best Regards,
Eric
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04-05-2005 02:47 AM
04-05-2005 02:47 AM
Re: Disk utilization on 9i oracle.
scsictl -m queue_depth /dev/rdsk/..
for each LUN for the drives involved in the disk set.
The default is 8 - try 32.
This can be changed interactively - if you like it change it "permanently" via an rc script on startup.
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04-05-2005 03:14 AM
04-05-2005 03:14 AM
Re: Disk utilization on 9i oracle.
The disk utilization 100% may not be significant. It's just a visual misread. Try this for a thought: If every time you issue an IO there is an other IO active, then the disk is 100% busy right? Well, if it was a traditional disk that would be true. But if it is an intellegent controller, like the EVA, then it can handle hundred of IOs to the same 'disk' concurrently! IMHO the OS just can not tell you how busy an EVA lun really it. There might be 8 physical drives behind it, there might be 80. That 10x the IO potential with no way to tell from the OS.
RAC>>> As you know, ne thing is you need to split the FS over multiple disks.
I beg to differ. As per above. That mountpoint might have all, or dozens of disks, supporting it. To carve a large lun up into multiple smaller ones is not likely to help all that much (if any)
Of course, as suggested, you need to allow for more than 8 concurrent IO on an EVA lun.
Anyway,
Instead of doing the math in %busy, please try to get a handle on IO/sec and KB/sec and read-write ratios. Then see if those are in a supportable range.
The suggestion for statspack is good. Check out the READ (and write) TIMES in the per file / per tablespace areas. Is it in the very low (1ms) range for writes? (WB cache).
Is is in the lowish ( 3ms - 10ms) for reads?
Those statspack tables will also tell you which things to move, if you still think you need to move stuff around.
hth,
Hein.
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04-05-2005 07:21 PM
04-05-2005 07:21 PM
Re: Disk utilization on 9i oracle.
The % uilisation on this type of bay is not a good (only) indicator, you should look at.
We have Oracle 9i running on HP-UX 11.11 and an EVA. In Glance our disk utilization is constantly 100%.
In glance try looking at the disk queue length (type u after you start glance). Although our utilizaton is always 100% the queue is always 0. If the EVA was getting behind this would increase.
Also try "sar -d 5 5" and look at avwait and avserv.
Cheers Simon.
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04-06-2005 02:18 AM
04-06-2005 02:18 AM
Re: Disk utilization on 9i oracle.
scsictl -m queue_depth on the disk(LUN) that is being 100% is at 8. What impact could I cause if I increase that to 32? Also, how would that resolve the disk utilization being at 100%.
Thanks again.
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04-06-2005 02:18 AM
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04-06-2005 02:27 AM
04-06-2005 02:27 AM
Re: Disk utilization on 9i oracle.
I think we tried changing the scsictl queue_depth thing and it didn't change anything.
Simon.
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04-06-2005 03:20 AM
04-06-2005 03:20 AM
Re: Disk utilization on 9i oracle.
The default Glance / (parm?) config file does not do justice to accurately getting real I/O subsystem performance. You will need to tweak it so it matches your storage architcture. Please rely on "sar -d" and "glance -u" to give you a better picture of your I/O load.
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04-06-2005 03:46 AM
04-06-2005 03:46 AM
Re: Disk utilization on 9i oracle.
Thanks again for all responses.
Charlie
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04-06-2005 04:25 AM
04-06-2005 04:25 AM
Re: Disk utilization on 9i oracle.
avque -- should be no more than 1.0
avwait -- should be 0 or near 0.
avserv -- should be less than 20.
If your sar -d stats meet the above guidelines, then overall - your I/O subsystem should be responsive enough.
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04-06-2005 04:32 AM
04-06-2005 04:32 AM
Re: Disk utilization on 9i oracle.
I've a 5 average value for avwait: can you give me some clue about the reason or anything I should check?
Best Regards,
Eric Antunes
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04-06-2005 04:32 AM
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Re: Disk utilization on 9i oracle.
device %busy avque r+w/s blks/s avwait avserv
Av c5t6d0 1.08 0.50 2 12 0.00 5.40
Av c8t6d0 0.96 0.50 2 11 0.00 5.12
Av c19t0d2 80.18 0.50 270 4472 0.00 5.14
Av c19t0d3 82.29 0.50 268 4281 0.00 5.40
Av c19t0d0 0.32 0.50 1 6 0.00 3.79
Av c19t0d1 0.08 0.50 0 1 0.00 2.88
You can see avwait is 0 and the avserv time is the same for all the volumes. All our data/indexs/redo/undo/archive is on c19t0d2 and c19t0d3
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04-06-2005 04:38 AM
04-06-2005 04:38 AM
Re: Disk utilization on 9i oracle.
On my EVA connected systems.... avwait is consistently 0. Only if the EVA is swamped to I see it (along with avque) go beyond 0.
What storage subsystem are you using? What other sar -d stats do you observe when you've youe avwait at 5?
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04-06-2005 04:41 AM
04-06-2005 04:41 AM
Re: Disk utilization on 9i oracle.
2:40:37 device %busy avque r+w/s blks/s avwait avserv
12:40:42 c0t6d0 3.37 0.50 6 46 6.17 14.64
c7t6d0 2.18 0.50 5 42 5.89 12.92
c58t0d6 1.19 0.50 20 354 4.69 0.57
c22t1d2 0.20 0.50 2 25 6.10 1.08
c22t0d4 0.40 0.50 2 29 5.67 0.30
c22t0d7 0.99 0.50 21 370 4.75 0.47
c58t1d1 0.20 0.50 1 19 5.71 0.26
12:40:47 c0t6d0 5.85 0.50 26 219 5.14 3.83
c7t6d0 2.02 0.50 4 36 5.04 9.98
c58t0d6 0.20 0.50 2 35 4.70 0.30
c22t1d2 1.61 0.50 23 371 5.17 0.54
c22t0d4 0.81 0.50 16 276 4.66 0.45
c22t0d7 0.20 0.50 2 29 5.38 0.28
c22t0d6 0.20 0.50 1 11 9.32 0.28
c22t0d5 5.85 0.50 14 287 5.13 4.37
c58t1d1 0.40 0.50 2 32 4.74 1.91
c58t0d0 0.81 0.50 8 187 5.36 1.11
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04-06-2005 05:05 AM
04-06-2005 05:05 AM
Re: Disk utilization on 9i oracle.
I agree to you to some extend, but not completely. while it is true that 100 % i/o is not a accurate measure of EVA(for that matter for SAN), but it sure that those disks
for that LUN are hitting high. what I mean is if SAN lun consists 4 pvs and i/o from Os looks 100 %, it certainly sure that few of them are getting hammered. to further analyze it you can use iostat on individual disks, you can use array commands to check thode disks. The point is, it would be possible to pinpoint the disk that is hitting high and then see what files are being present on it and carry it forward.
But I do agree that statspack and i/o stats will go a long way to help on this issue.
Anil
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04-06-2005 05:59 AM
04-06-2005 05:59 AM
Re: Disk utilization on 9i oracle.
"Depending on the number of datafiles in a database, a checkpoint can be a
highly resource intensive operation, since all datafile headers are frozen
during the checkpoint. There is a performance trade-off regarding frequency
of checkpoints. "
cf. Metalink doc id 147468.1
what value do you have for (oracle parameters) :
- CHECKPOINT_PROCESS
- LOG_CHECKPOINT_INTERVAL
- LOG_CHECKPOINT_TIMEOUT
- LOG_CHECKPOINTS_TO_ALERT
Regards
Jean-Luc
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04-06-2005 06:33 AM
04-06-2005 06:33 AM
Re: Disk utilization on 9i oracle.
as you are running Oracle with EVA backend storage you may want to read this doc
http://h71028.www7.hp.com/ERC/downloads/5983-0322EN.pdf
Regards
Jean-Luc
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04-06-2005 06:37 AM
04-06-2005 06:37 AM
Re: Disk utilization on 9i oracle.
If you're scsi_max_qdepth is 8 or 16, increase it to 32 or even 64 since you are using few LUNs.
scsi_max_qdepth is a dynamic kernel tunable so you need not reboot your box.
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04-06-2005 06:41 AM
04-06-2005 06:41 AM
Re: Disk utilization on 9i oracle.
Thanks again for all responses!!!
Charlie
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