HPUX Scheduler

[Lacrosse]

Does anyone know of a good product that does Unix scheduling freeware or purchased other than cron something with a better user interface....many thanks for the help

[G. Vrijhoeven · Accepted solution]

Hi,

You can use the tivoli product meastro. It is from IBM and has good scheduling functionality with dependenties. It is not for free.

Gideon

[Robert-Jan Goossens]

Hi,

We use OPS from Axway.

http://www.axway.com/templates/page.php?lang_code=EN&menu_mnemo=SOLU3

IT IS NOT CHEAP !!!!!!

Regards,
Robert-Jan

[Jeff Schussele]

Hi,

General activities => Tivoli
Oracle specific => Control-M from BMC

Are what we use.
Neither are cheap.

Rgds,
Jeff

[Stuart Abramson_2]

I agree with above:

Tivoli Maestro (renamed to Tivoli Job Scheduler or somesuch - Tivoli Workload Manager)
BMC Control-M
CA bought Platinum which made AutoSys, and it has disappeared from prominent use.
AppWorx

On one project on which I worked, Tivoli wanted some $200,000 for about 20 UNIX and NT servers. That was a few years ago.

[Lacrosse]

Does HP openview have any feature that would acomplish this

[Robert-Jan Goossens]

http://www.openview.hp.com/sso/isv/detail?appid=A486

[Hazem Mahmoud_3]

We used to use Maestro while on MPE. However, when we migrated to HP-UX, Maestro wasn't available for that at the time (now they do have an HP-UX version of Maestro, by a company called ROC Software).
So we went with another product called UC4. It is becoming quite popular. Very reliable, and powerful. It requires a different W2K server and then you run an executor on the HP-UX machine (they also have executors for almost all platforms you can think of).
It's developed by a German company called SEA.
I highly recommend it.

-Hazem

[Ralph Haefner]

The last time I was involved in evaluating these, there wasn't much that was worth the cost. To replace our home-grown scripts with something only marginally better would have cost something like $50,000, and that was only for a pretty small number of servers.

So my suggestion would be, depending on how complex your needs are and how strong the programming/scripting skills are in your department, you may be better off doing it yourself - we found we couldn't do any better at reasonable expense.

[Chris Vail]

Hey Hookemhorns....long time no see! I'm back on ITRC after being out of work for 3 months.

With the others, I suggest you look at Tivoli Maestro Workload Scheduler. It is NOT a very good product--I despise it greatly. Its a pain in the butt to maintain if you set it up wrong, and you WILL set it up wrong the first couple of times.

But once you've ironed out the bugs, it is a very powerful tool. The secret to good design is first of all to NOT let everybody have the master password. Dedicate one or two people only to the installation and running of this product, then hold them responsible for it. This is NOT a sysadmin tool AFAICT, but is an application that requires training, an architectural plan, and an in-depth knowledge of your own batch schedule. It is not for the casual user: it is downsized from the mainframe environment.

When your production batch environment stabilizes, its pretty reliable. Putting it in your test or development environment, however, is an open invitation to an ulcer--don't do it unless you have to, and then if possible make it someone else's problem.



Chris

[Tim Sanko]

There is also MQseries for mixed mainframe UNIX shops. The list of schedulers is many and varied, the list of good ones is short.

Cron is fine for single system shops. I prefer anything that is not owned by CA.

Tim

[Stuart Abramson_2]

Chris Vail had a REAL GOOD point. The installation of a workload scheduler will require the assignment of TWO OR THREE PEOPLE full time to install, maintain, monitor and USE the job scheduler:

1. A UNIX System Admin to install, maintain, configure, test the software; and set up daily monitoring of what happened last night (did all the backups complete, etc.)

2. An Operations Scheduler to actually figure out the nightly, weekly, monthly, quarterly, annual schedules and enter job schedules, then check to see that they ran properly.

3. An Applications Specialist (in the case where I worked, this was an SAP Basis Admin) to do the same things for SAP tasks, which were scheduled by the job scheduler (CA AutoSys, and the others as well, have an interface into SAP (or Oracle, etc.)).

We had 30,000 scheduled jobs! System: Backups on 40 systems, daily, weekly, monthly, offsite storage, BCV splits; Nightly /tmp file cleanup, etc. Applications: nightly processing, weekly processing, monthly, quarterly, etc.; Test, QA, Production.

[Lacrosse]

Welcome back Chris 3 months out hope your Ok

[Giraut]

Hi,

We definitely use what you are looking for :
Dollar Universe - it's HP compliant, it can be implemented on different types of machines and it's using concepts that are brigging down all other tools on the market.

And on top of that : you can get it directly from HP.

Here is a link : http://devresource.hp.com/sso/isv/detail?print=1&appid=A550

Rgds,
Patrice