ignite

[Norman_21]

Hi guys,
Just a question.
1.Could I run the
ignite backup while the users are loggin or do I have to log off the users?
2. I have some file systems mounted to /dev/data do I have to unmount them or the make_recovery -ApCiv will ignore them and will only backup the vg00?
Also, I have a question about upgrading to make_tape_recovery, is the software available at the hp site free or just a trial version?

your prompt reply will be appreciated.
Thanks.

[Sridhar Bhaskarla · Accepted solution]

Hi,

1. You can run make_tape_recovery while the users are in the system.

2. You don't need to worry about unmounting the file systems. Use "-x inc_entire=vg00" option with make_tape_recovery command.

make_tape_recovery comes with the ignite. It is a contributed software from HP and it's free. You can get it from this URL. Look at the man page of make_tape_recovery for more options.

http://www.software.hp.com/products/IUX/index.html

Click on downloads in the right most column.

-Sri

[Rajeev Shukla]

Hi,
1. You dont have to worry about users even if they are loged in. But its recomended to take the backup in single usermode. But i have seen even in multiuser mode and users loged in it makes no difference.
2. Also you dont have to unmount the /dev/data as the iginite will take only full vg00 backup.

You can download the new version of make recovery from
software.hp.com site.

Rajeev

[avsrini]

Hi AB,
If you are taking make_recovery tape only for system files (vg00 only) then no need to worry about users.
If you want to take the whole system in make_recovery tape, then you can go to single user mode and mount all the file system and include all the vg's with -x incl_entire=vg00 -x incl_entire=vgdata etc etc.

You can get the latest ignite-UX file from the application CD's of HP-UX or you can download from http://software.hp.com

Srini.

[Ravi_8]

Hi,

1. Yes you can backup while users are in
2. no need to umount any file systems, use the option -x inc_entire=vg00 for make_tape_recovery command

make_tape_recovery is build in with ignite software, if you upgrdae the ignite software make_tape_recovery will also get upgrade.

[avsrini]

Hi AB,
If you are taking make_recovery tape only for system files (vg00 only) then no need to worry about users.
If you want to take the whole system in recovery tape, then you can go to single user mode and mount all the file system and include all the vg's with -x incl_entire=vg00 -x incl_entire=vgdata etc etc in make_tape_recovery command

You can get the latest ignite-UX file from the application CD's of HP-UX or you can download from http://software.hp.com

Srini.

[Norman_21]

Thanks guys for the quick advice. However, I'll install the new ignite version and I hope that I wouldn't need to install the pax patch.
Thanks.

[Norman_21]

Thanks guys for the quick advice. However, I'll install the new ignite version and I hope that I wouldn't need to install the pax patch.
Thanks.

[Norman_21]

Thanks guys for the quick advice. However, I'll install the new ignite version and I hope that I wouldn't need to install the pax patch.
Thanks.

[Norman_21]

Hi guys,

I have only one file system
/dev/vg00/data which I do not want to include in my recovery tape. when I tried to unmount it
it says /data device is busy. However, I did this:
make_tape_recovery -x inc_entire=vg00 -x exclude=/data
-I -v

any comments please.
thanks in advance.

[Rajeev Shukla]

You are right, if that file system is in use you wont be able to unmount it. But still you can exclude using the -x option.

Rajeev

[Norman_21]

Thanks Rajeev for the quick support. Could you please tell me how can I unmount a busy file system. Do I have to be in a single user mode?
Thanks.

[Rajeev Shukla]

You'll have to check the filesystem by using fuser to see what process is using this filesystem.
Do a man on fuser or user
fuser -cu or -fu
and if this process are not required you can kill them or user fuser -ku to kill and then you should be able to unmount.
If this doesn't work then single user would be the best way to do that.

Rajeev

[Norman_21]

Thanks again Rajeev.

[Norman_21]

One more question. I didn't install the pax patch, what could be the impact of making a tape recovery without installing the pax patch.
Thanks in advance.

[Rajeev Shukla]

If the make_tape_recovery has finished without any errors then its fine. But you should install the patch as soon as possible. Coz without patch you start getting some errors which fails the backup.
But then again the S/W you downloaded might be a fixed version which doesn't require patch. Did you go through the readme of that. Only September release i guess required patch. By the way if you want to be more sure you can post the version and we can see.

Rajeev

[Norman_21]

Rajeev,

here is the end of the backup. I've had a warning at the end becaue of the following files:
var/tmp/ign_configure/make_sys_image.log
NOTE: Could not read the /etc/resolv.conf file.

Please refer to attached file for more details.

Also, my /opt now is 91% full which is critical. Please tell me what files I can remove to clean the file system.

appreciate your quick reply.

[Norman_21]

here is the version:
Ignite-UX-11-00 B.4.1.61.

thanks.

[Rajeev Shukla]

Hi AB,
this definately looks a latest version which should'nt require patch.
Also the warning i see are fine
/var/tmp/ign_configure/make_sys_image.log
says that the files might have been deleted by the time it backed them up so just see if those files are not important ignore them. Also look what permission /etc/resolve.conf file has, by what user u did make_tape_recovery that it didn't have permission to read.

Cheers
Rajeev

[Norman_21]

Rajeev,
Please this is very important:
my /opt now is 91% full which is critical. Please tell me what files I can remove to clean the file system.

Thanks.

[Rajeev Shukla]

Has this /opt grown after make_recovery or after loading the Ignite-UX.(I hope you removed the old version).
Also do a find on size more than 1MB and the 10MB file and see which ones have recently grown.
/opt holds all the softwares you have installed and wont grow untill and unless you install more. But how much MB is left that matters than %.
Last alternative is to increase the filesystem size but to do that u'll have to bring the system to single user mode as you wont be able to unmount /opt.

rajeev

[Norman_21]

No, I didn't remove the old version.

[Rajeev Shukla]

That might be one problem, the best would be to remove the old Ignite-UX and see if you dont see /opt/ignite and swlist doesn't show Ignite-UX then you should load the new Ignite.

Any way i have posted in the your next question for reducing /opt, to atleast save some space in /opt by deleting some files. You might probably same 20MB space by that.

Rajeev

[Norman_21]

But he old version is 0 Kb in size. the new version is 98973.
Is that normal!!

[Rajeev Shukla]

Thats all right then.
can you see any large files in side /opt/ignite/data/Rel..10.20 and Rel..11.11 called SYS... they might be 10~15MB in size which you can remove if your OS is 11.00 or choose the appropriate one.

Cheers
Rajeev