OPENSSL

[tballs]

I upgraded my OPENSSL to 09.081.002. I see the new version using swlist as well as ssh -V. However, when I go into openssl and check the version, it's showing 0.9.7m 23 Feb 2007. Any help in understanding why it's still showing the older version would be greatly appreciated...

# swlist -l product|grep ssl
openssl A.00.09.08l.002 Secure Network Communications Protocol
# ssh -V
OpenSSH_5.3p1+sftpfilecontrol-v1.3-hpn13v5, OpenSSL 0.9.8l 5 Nov 2009
HP-UX Secure Shell-A.05.30.008, HP-UX Secure Shell version
# openssl
OpenSSL> version
OpenSSL 0.9.7m 23 Feb 2007
OpenSSL>

[tballs]

I just found some info in the WU-FTPD doc that says 0.9.7m is the latest version of openssl. So I guess I'm just getting confused between the "product version" and the "software version"... ?

[Joe Ledesma]

The HP Software Depot site for OpenSSL says:

A.00.09.08l.001, A.00.09.08l.002, and A.00.09.08l.003, are based on versions 0.9.7m and 0.9.8l from http://www.openssl.org/. (See table 1 for contents of the depots)

--Since it mentions both upstream versions, maybe part of HP-UX OpenSSL is based on upstream 0.9.7m and part on 0.9.8l ?

https://h20392.www2.hp.com/portal/swdepot/displayProductInfo.do?productNumber=OPENSSL11I

[Steven Schweda]

> [...] when I go into openssl [...]

When you go into _which_ "openssl"? And is
that the newly installed one?

[tballs]

I only see that I have one openssl installed when I perform the swlist command as shown above.

[Steven Schweda]

> I only see [...]

You see only what you look for. Look harder?
An "openssl" program could come from many
sources, only some of which are HP depots.

which openssl

ls -l ` which openssl `

[tballs]

# which openssl
/usr/bin/openssl
# ls -l `which openssl`
lrwxr-xr-x 1 root sys 24 Mar 3 12:14 /usr/bin/openssl -> /opt/openssl/bin/openssl
#

[Steven Schweda]

It's like pulling teeth...

ls -l /opt/openssl/bin/openssl

> [...] And is
> that the newly installed one?


> I just found some info in the WU-FTPD doc
> that says 0.9.7m is the latest version of
> openssl. [...]

And what has WU-FTPD to do with anything?

According to:
http://openssl.org/

"OpenSSL 0.9.8m is now available"

0.9.8l is relatively recent.


> # ssh -V

Does that tell you what was used to build the
SSH kit, or what you have installed on your
system?


According to:

https://h20392.www2.hp.com/portal/swdepot/displayProductInfo.do?productNumber=OPENSSL11I

OpenSSL A.00.09.08l.00x would appear to
contain two versions of OpenSSl software,
0.9.7m and 0.9.8l.

find /opt/openssl -name openssl

Around here:

dy # echo version | /opt/openssl/0.9.7/bin/openssl
OpenSSL> OpenSSL 0.9.7m 23 Feb 2007
OpenSSL> dy #

dy # echo version | /opt/openssl/0.9.8/bin/openssl
OpenSSL> OpenSSL 0.9.8l 5 Nov 2009
OpenSSL> dy #


dy # ls -l /opt/openssl/bin
lrwxr-xr-x 1 root sys 9 Mar 3 19:59 /opt/openssl/bin -> 0.9.7/bin

This might explain something.


Almost always useful info, by the way:

uname -a

[Dennis Handly]

>Steven: ls -l /opt/openssl/bin/openssl

You could always suggest using -L:
# ls -l -L $(whence openssl)

[Steven Schweda]

> You could always suggest [...]

Before I actually installed the kit, I had no
idea that there'd be a link anywhere.

On the other hand, after I installed the kit,
even some very basic looking around led to
enough information to satisfy me.

Cultivating simple curiosity often pays
valuable dividends.

[tballs]

> Cultivating simple curiosity [...]

Cultivating simple curiosity in a kind and non-sarcastic manner could pay more valuable dividends in both directions.

Thanks for the information. I found all the links and pointed them to the new software.

Had I been a unix admin or worked with this stuff every day, I probably wouldn't have needed to ask the question.
Thanks again.

[tballs]

links corrected

[Steven Schweda]

> Mar 4, 2010 00:01:22 GMT 0 pts
> Mar 4, 2010 00:33:01 GMT 0 pts
> Mar 4, 2010 02:08:20 GMT 0 pts
> Mar 4, 2010 13:11:08 GMT 0 pts

Oh, now my feelings are hurt. (Oops. Am I
being sarcastic?)

> Cultivating simple curiosity in a kind and
> non-sarcastic manner could pay more
> valuable dividends in both directions.

Rewarding useful help (even with these
oh-so-valuable points) might increase the
probability of your getting more useful help
here in the future.

> Had I been a unix admin or worked with this
> stuff every day, I probably wouldn't have
> needed to ask the question.

All the more reason to bite the hand which
feeds you, I'm sure.

> Thanks again.

Yeah, right. Again? When was the first
time?

[tballs]

> Mar 4, 2010 00:01:22 GMT 0 pts
> Mar 4, 2010 00:33:01 GMT 0 pts
> Mar 4, 2010 02:08:20 GMT 0 pts
> Mar 4, 2010 13:11:08 GMT 0 pts

My initial gut told me to do this. I actually went back and attempted to give you some pts (not sure why, I don't tip waitresses with bad attitudes?), but apparently after you submit the points, it doesn't let you change them. After your last comments, you have confirmed why I wanted to give you no points. Again, "kindness and non-sarcastic pays both ways".

>Thanks for the information. I found all the links and pointed them to the new software.
>Thanks again.
>>Yeah, right. Again? When was the first
time?

Yep, that's "2 Thanks". Whew... I thought I was the one that couldn't count.

Look Steve, I'm not here to banter back and fourth about points or your attitude. But, honestly, if this is the kind of "help" I can expect to get on here, I'll just open up a call with HP. I certainly would rather get assistance in a kind and curtious fashion, than someone trying to belittle me and make me feel stupid for not catching onto suttle hints.

I do appreciate the help, but do not appreciate the way in which you presented it. Have a great day.

[nukemeslow]

Wow Steve,

You see only what you look for. Look harder?
It's like pulling teeth...
And what has WU-FTPD to do with anything?

It's obvious you have experience, but it's also obvious you're a jerk. Do you treat your coworkers like that? Do you know that there's a whole world of IT folks who are exactly NOT like that? Kind of going out your way to be putz, aren't you? I think you really nailed it tballs... Glad I don't have to work with that guy. My eight year old doesn't even give me that kind of attitude!

Larry

[Steven Schweda]

> Wow Steve, [...]

Jeepers, Larry,

Touchy, are we?

> You see only what you look for. Look harder?

Not doing even a few simple "ls" operations
to try to see what one is running seems to me
to be a bit lax.

> It's like pulling teeth...

Wasn't it? Seemed that way to me.

> And what has WU-FTPD to do with anything?

Seemed to me to be a reasonable question.
Still does, especially considering the
context ("I just found some info") which
provided exactly no info on the actual
source, or its date, or its relevance.

> Do you treat your coworkers like that?

I don't recall having had any particular
problems with them, as they've tended to be
grown-ups who knew how to form a useful
problem report, and do some basic poking
around, and who didn't interpret a simple
request for information as a personal attack.


> Whew... I thought I was the one that
> couldn't count.

I must have been blinded by rage. (Or a
dodgy Web browser.)