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06-28-2007 11:49 AM
06-28-2007 11:49 AM
Performance gain from v1 to v3
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Re: Performance gain from v1 to v3
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06-28-2007 03:45 PM
06-28-2007 03:45 PM
Re: Performance gain from v1 to v3
No.
Unless you want a vague -10% to +20%
It depends too much on your application.
Even adding something like 'oracle based' or 'web serving' is not going to give enough common ground to work from.
Here is a hint though: For starters look for yourself at how much SYSTEM time your application uses versus USERmode.
Kernel/OS changes are rather unlikely to improve usermode time, so if you application is doing 90% usermode, then there is very little hope of significant improvement through OS changes/tuning.
exceptions: - Kernel change could change translation buffer usage and context switing and such making caches more effective, reducing user mode time).
- The DBC was improved which would be system time, but coudl indirectly improve user time (less waiting / spinning / scheduling).
Potential performance gains are a nice side effect of going V3, but should never (rarely) be the deciding factor.
Support for new hardware, new software tools, new certification boundaries, new patches, better support status, those are the real reasons to move forward.
For example, you might for to v3 in preparation of going to more cost effective Itanium hardware. Or maybe a new Oracle release needs a more recent HPUX.
You are right though to keep an eye on performance.
Be sure to have a reproducable, reportable, long term performance overview established under v1 to compare with for v3.
Anything will do, even a crude vmstat script, but seriously look at 'sar' and 'measureware' and commercial tools for comprehensive reporting if you do not already have this in place..
Hope this helps some,
Hein van den Heuvel (at gmail dot com)
HvdH Performance Consulting
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06-29-2007 01:45 AM
06-29-2007 01:45 AM
Re: Performance gain from v1 to v3
http://h20338.www2.hp.com/hpux11i/cache/458092-0-0-225-121.html?jumpid=reg_R1002_USEN
"HP-UX 11i v3 delivers 30% better operating system performance on average than HP-UX 11i v2. "
Rgds...Geoff
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06-29-2007 02:58 AM
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Re: Performance gain from v1 to v3
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06-29-2007 03:01 AM
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Re: Performance gain from v1 to v3
See:
http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=1125744
Rgds...Geoff
BTW - thw 30% increase is from v2 to v3.
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06-29-2007 05:11 AM
06-29-2007 05:11 AM
Re: Performance gain from v1 to v3
Right.
And V2 was really the Itanium V1 release, so that's not too big a surprise. It's the old: First get it working, then get it working well.
Please not though, and I am sure you saw that but just did not copy it exactly, that the text our frien Geoff quotes indicates (Uppercase mine):
"30% better OPERATING SYSTEM performance"
This does not mean your appliaction will go 30% faster. If your vmstat/top/sar looks like usr:sys:idle = 60:20:20, then that 30% _might_ bring you to 60:14:40 for a 10% improvement.
fwiw,
Hein.
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06-29-2007 08:04 AM
06-29-2007 08:04 AM
Re: Performance gain from v1 to v3
http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2183495/hp-server-operating-system
Though they may be just quoting HP's site.
Seriously - if your application does any disk I/O - then upgrading to HP-UX 11i v3 will improve your performance becuase of the re-write of the storage stack - how much? I don't know.
I do know that our lead DBA was very impressed - as our 4 x dual core RX6600 performed on par or better then an Opteron (8 x dual core) running RH Linux. And it beat Solaris hands down.
Rgds...Geoff
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06-29-2007 08:12 AM
06-29-2007 08:12 AM
Re: Performance gain from v1 to v3
Unified Cache:
http://h71028.www7.hp.com/ERC/downloads/4AA0-7157ENW.pdf
This doc has some nice graphs - showing relative performance over previous versions:
http://h71028.www7.hp.com/ERC/downloads/4AA1-0961ENW.pdf
Here's a doc on the RX6600 and it's world-record SPECjAppServer2004
http://h71028.www7.hp.com/ERC/downloads/4AA1-0961ENW.pdf
Here's a quick blurb on the Mass Storage Stack:
http://docs.hp.com/en/MassStorageStack1/ProductBriefv1.2.pdf
Rgds...Geoff
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06-29-2007 08:19 AM
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