perl compile on HP-UX 11.0/gcc 3.1?

[A. Daniel King_1]

Hi, folks ???

I???ve been trying to compile perl 5.6.1 on HP-UX 11.0 using gcc 3.1 (which seems to be otherwise compiling well).

After running the ./Configure script (with many various options), I consistently get:

$make

make: *** No rule to make target `', needed by `miniperlmain.o'. Stop.

Any ideas?

[Michael Tully]

Hi,

Instead of trying to compile it, why not get it from the porting centre.

http://hpux.connect.org.uk/hppd/hpux/Languages/perl-5.6.1/

Cheers
~Michael~

[A. Daniel King_1]

Good point. However, I'm one of those masochistic sorts that enjoys compiling everything himself. I learn so much more about a system and a package when I do this.

[Hartmut Lang]

Are you using the GUN version of make? This might help.

Hartmut

[H.Merijn Brand (procura]

a. 5.6.1 does not support gcc-3.1 (by default)

but you are masochist? OK, alter makedepend.SH yourself. Since you're a masochist, you'll see what to do :)

b. 5.8.0 does support gcc-3.1 (by default)

5.8.0 Release Candidate 1 was released last saturday. Available on CPAN

c. There are a *lot* of reasons to build your own perl instead of using the precompiled binaries from the HP porting center.

- HP's version is threaded, which can cause problems with timing
- HP's version is build with an older gcc, and knowing that recent gcc versions (3.0.4 and up) have a huge number of improvements for hp-ux, that will improve reliability and speed
- HP's version is build for hppa-1.1 (only 3.0.4 and up support native 2.0)
- HP's version cannot be used for DBD-Oracle
- ...

[Hartmut Lang]

Procura,

what do you mean by "5.6.1 does not support gcc-3.1"?
Is there a feature in gcc-3.1 which causes the building of perl5.6.1 to fail?
Do you know (of course you do ;-) any details? I'm just curious.

Hartmut

[H.Merijn Brand (procura]

gcc has changed a few things in 3.1, so the perl Configuration does not detect (correctly) that this is a gcc-3.1. Hint: try 'gcc --version' on older gcc's and compare that to what 3.1 issues

Also internals have changed, like what A.Daniel noticed with the builtin stuff.

5.8.0-RC1 is the latest development status, in which all these issues are solved/recognized and dealt with. It might be that these changes are backported to 5.6.* after 5.8.0 is realeased. It will then be in 5.6.2. But IMHO 5.8.0 tobe has lots of good reasons to use it (Unicode, threads, safe signals, 64bitness, to mention a few)

[A. Daniel King_1]

- I am using GNU make, GNU bison, flex, GNU binutils, etc.
- I might just take a gander at the makedepend.SH myself, though I am aware there are far greater minds than mine working on perl issues.
- Is there a web page to read about the release plans for perl? I've seen the http://gcc.gnu.org front page which, even if somewhat inaccurate, does provide things like "gcc 3.1 due in late April". I've not seen this type of thing for perl.
- I submitted a bug report to the perl folks, and I got back that there may be a workaround by passing "the option -Dd_attribut to Configure". I've not yet got this to work.

Thanks for the replies.

[H.Merijn Brand (procura]

Release plan: within a few weeks expect 5.8.0 to hit the streets. RC1 is showing very stable.

If you ever programmed shell scripts, makedepend should be easy as pie. I still won't tell you. Check patch 16449 in ftp://ftp.linux.activestate.com/perl-current-diffs/ to see if you were right :)

[Mark Landin]

Would someone be so kind as to provide a "better" precompiled-and-depotized version of Perl 5.6.1 on the Porting Center?

[H.Merijn Brand (procura · Accepted solution]

Very unlikely with 5.8.0 comming up in two weeks

I'd be all to happy to make that available in both HPc build and gcc build