Survey

[Karthik S S]

Hi All,

This time time I am not going to ask what your Salary is .. :-)) ... But, tell me what do you think is a decent salary for the Unix Admins in the market depending on the years of experience they have.

Mike "Where are you" Fisher??? We are waiting for your responses.

Regards,
Karthik S S

[Pete Randall]

Karthik,

It's too dependant on where you live. There's no way to compare. Minimal, entry level salaries here in the US would be much higher than an experienced person might make where you are.


Pete

[Karthik S S]

Well Pete ... you are free to discuss about the US trend. I am obviously not asking you about the Indian market :-))

-Karthik S S

[George_Dodds]

I think generally if you get 1k for each year of your age then you should be happy.

A lot of it is not just down to experience but also location that affects the wage but thats the rule of thumb that i use.

Ta

George

[Ian Dennison_1]

I think it comes down to 3 aspects,....

1. The experience of the person (in years and variety of products)
2. The technical nature of the role which they are undertaking (Basic Admin, or Advanced Troubleshooting or Architecture Design)
3. The economic climate of the time, including the scarcity of the skillset.

Share and Enjoy! Ian

[Karthik S S]

Nice to see that more inputs are flowing on various Salary determining factors. Keep firing ..

-Karthik S S

[George_Dodds]

Ian is right the scarcity of the skillset is a big issue.

At first a CCNA/CCNP or a MCSE could command a realy good wage initially but the the market became flooded with people with the same skill sets and it drove the wages right down.

Tis the old supply and demand chestnut!

Ta

George

[Karthik S S]

Hey ... I was just checking my forums profile ... :-) ...

Today I have completed 1 year as HP ITRC Forum Member ... Isn't that great ... and also on this day I have been promoted to Graduate ... Down the memory lane 6 years back on this very date I started off my carrer after completion of my studies .... :-))

-Karthik S S

[George_Dodds]

Happy forum birthday Karthik and well done on the hat. :)

[Karthik S S]

Thank you George ...

Perhaps I am the first person to be greeted for Forum Birthday :-))

Mummy I want my cake :-((

-Karthik S S

[John Meissner]

cake?... did someone say cake? happy forum birthday! and how appropriate to also get promoted on the same day!!

as for the salary...
location, cost of living (in that area), general trend in the market, companies financial status, demand for the skill, level of skill required, possibly age, actual job function, all take part in determining salary... oh yeah... personality.... personality goes a long way (pulp fiction)

[Geoff Wild]

The answer to your question:

That depends.....

I have 14 years in IT now (10 with HP-UX).

35K - 55K Junior Unix Admin
45K - 70K Intermediate Unix Admin
70K - 100K Senior Unix Admin

Rgds...Geoff

PS - Canadian Dollars

PSS - I'm a Senior Unix Admin

PSSS - For the Windoze world, drop the above by 20% :)

[Pete Randall]

I'll do the math for you:

35 to 55 = 24,868 to 39,076
45 to 70 = 31,969 to 49,729
70 to 100 = 49,979 to 71,042

Based on today's converions rates.


Pete

[Karthik S S]

Hi pete,

Was it the conversion from Dollars to Indian Rupees????

35 to 55 = 24,868 to 39,076
45 to 70 = 31,969 to 49,729
70 to 100 = 49,979 to 71,042

??

-Karthik S S

[Karthik S S]

OK OK .. got it .. from Canadian to US ... :-)

-Karthik S S

[Pete Randall]

Sorry, Karthik. I should have been more specific. I was converting Canadian to US dollars because that's what you said you wanted in the "vanishing post".

Cheers,


Pete

[Karthik S S]

Thanks Pete ...
Pl. never remind me again about that post ;-)

Hey Mike "Disappeared" Fisher .... Where r u?

-Karthik S S

[George_Dodds]

Cad dollars to rupees

35k - 55k = 1,148,050.33 - 1,803,043.19
45k - 70k = 1,475,217.16 - 2,294,064.40
75k - 100k = 2,294,064.40 - 3,276,461.38

[Karthik S S]

I would love to see these figures in my salary Slip :-)) ...

How do you define a Junior/Intermediate/Senior Sysadmin???

-Karthik S S

[Stuart Abramson_2]

I agree with previous statement:

35K - 55K Junior Unix Admin
45K - 70K Intermediate Unix Admin
70K - 100K Senior Unix Admin

But I think that that applies to US $.

It depends, also, as stated, on a bunch of factors:
geographical: New York City pays more than Iowa.
industry: Financial pays more than university. Merrill Lynch pays more than the university of cincinnati.
employer: PricewaterhouseCoopers Consulting pays more than university of Cincinatti.
Size: Large corporations with 100 servers pay more than small companies with 5 servers.

Also, you can increase your income by being a contractor rather than a company employee. But you sacrifice security in hard times (like now). (Security is a whole other subject - the reality or illusion thereof.)

A further factor to consider is specialization: It used to be that the UNIX System Admin did all jobs pertaining to administration of a system. Now there are specialists:
Performance Management Specialists.
Storage Administrators.
SAN Administrators.
Backup Administrators.

They often pay more.

Also, check ads on NetTemps and Monstor. They often have prices in them (although recruiters lie to you sometimes.)

[Kevin Lamb_2]

The UK stats are approx:

Junior 15-25K
Inter 25-45k
Senior 35-70k

All the rates are location dependant with the City of London paying the most.

Contractor rates vary from location with the average at ??28 per hour dependant on experience.


Kev
"I'd rather be flying"

[Pete Randall]

Karthik,

I would define Junior/Intermediate/Senior something like this:

0 to 7 years - Junior Unix Admin
4 to 10 years - Intermediate Unix Admin
more than 8 years - Senior Unix Admin

But in each of these cases it really depends on proficiency in a lot of areas - that's why there are overlaps.


Pete

[Steven E. Protter]

These are the links I used to write the salary pitch I wrote last year, which was ignored.

http://cmastaffing.com/flash/jobs/0114.html

http://www.allabouttechjobs.com/jobs.htm

http://jobsure.com/jobs/ranga/sr.-web,-system-admin,.html

http://www.mantechit.com.au/candidate_services/salarymatrixpop.htm

http://www.iit-inc.com/JOBS.HTM

http://h1-visa.com/general1/salary_survey.html

http://www.edpstaffing.com/salary.html

You may need to click to find current info. The focus of my search was the Midwest. Where I live.

SEP

[Tim D Fulford]

I thought I was well paid 'till I saw this!!!! In ??Sterlin I would put the figures even lower...

15K - 20K Junior Unix Admin
20K - 30K Intermediate Unix Admin
30K - 45k Senior Unix Admin

I also exit will depend on the type of systems you service. The other thing I noticed (& I dont mean to be an intellectual snob here) only about 50% of people have a degree. (probably because a degree in lack of sleep, trying to persuade your boss installing patches is a good idea.. donsn't exist)

Tim

[Stefan Farrelly]

Tim - youre very low for UK rates. Kevin Lamb is spot on for UK permanent salaries;

Junior 15-25k??
Inter 25-45k??
Senior 45-70k?? (Kevin had 35-70)

I know some senior HPUX admins in the city earning a permie salary of 70k??.