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04-09-2001 12:46 PM
04-09-2001 12:46 PM
Upgrade K370
Hello,
I'm upgrading a K370, running 10.20, patched thru March 2001 patch bundles. Sybase application is running on the box, majority of users come in via socket, not telnet.
Box currently has 4 CPUs, 200mhz each, and 1 GB memory. I want to take the box up to 6 CPUs and max memory. Has anyone ran into any problems, re: heat, higher fan failure rates, etc.?
I'm upgrading a K370, running 10.20, patched thru March 2001 patch bundles. Sybase application is running on the box, majority of users come in via socket, not telnet.
Box currently has 4 CPUs, 200mhz each, and 1 GB memory. I want to take the box up to 6 CPUs and max memory. Has anyone ran into any problems, re: heat, higher fan failure rates, etc.?
"No matter where you go, there you are"
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04-09-2001 03:03 PM
04-09-2001 03:03 PM
Re: Upgrade K370
Hi Mona:
The K-class supports up to 6-processors. However, I suggest that you consider looking at replacing your K370 with an N-class. Based on cost, and HP announcements you might find that your initial *and* maintenance costs would be far less for far more. I know this firsthand, having toyed with K-class hardware upgrade prices!
Take a look at this announcement:
http://www.hp.com/products1/unixservers/midrange/kclass/discontinuance.html
...JRF...
The K-class supports up to 6-processors. However, I suggest that you consider looking at replacing your K370 with an N-class. Based on cost, and HP announcements you might find that your initial *and* maintenance costs would be far less for far more. I know this firsthand, having toyed with K-class hardware upgrade prices!
Take a look at this announcement:
http://www.hp.com/products1/unixservers/midrange/kclass/discontinuance.html
...JRF...
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04-09-2001 04:04 PM
04-09-2001 04:04 PM
Re: Upgrade K370
Hmmmm.....
Memory is no problem, you can go to 3.75Gb on 10.20 I believe.
Cpu's, no problem, they are self recognizing as is the memory. You will see a quadrupling in the amount of time it takes to check the memory at boot up. Same for CPU's.
However..............
Double check to see that you don't need a bigger power supply. Some K-class upgrades do require them. I assume you are getting the CPU's from a 3rd party refurbisher? They should know all about what you need. I would suggest that you use 3rd party memory for the rest of what you need unless you are on HP's CSS support. All memory today is guaranteed for life and a 24 hour replacement policy. Price is a lot less.
FYI, anything that runs in place for 30 days is eligible for HP maintenance automatically.
Memory is no problem, you can go to 3.75Gb on 10.20 I believe.
Cpu's, no problem, they are self recognizing as is the memory. You will see a quadrupling in the amount of time it takes to check the memory at boot up. Same for CPU's.
However..............
Double check to see that you don't need a bigger power supply. Some K-class upgrades do require them. I assume you are getting the CPU's from a 3rd party refurbisher? They should know all about what you need. I would suggest that you use 3rd party memory for the rest of what you need unless you are on HP's CSS
FYI, anything that runs in place for 30 days is eligible for HP maintenance automatically.
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04-10-2001 11:12 AM
04-10-2001 11:12 AM
Re: Upgrade K370
Mona,
I agree with James. Before spending any money on a K box I would take a serious look at the N's and L's.
The list price on the processors for the K370 is $15,000 each. The Max RAM is 4GB, so to add another 3GB lists for $39,180. Provided you currently have four 256MB modules in your system. If not, you will have to replace them to get to 4GB.
So, you are somewhere around $70,000 list to do the upgrade. Granted nobody pays list and you can get this stuff used. I just do not think upgrading a K is worth it, especially after that discontinuance announcement.
Performance wise, a maxxed out K370 gets you 21,350 estimated TPM. A 4 processor L3000 gives you 34,500 TPM. You could probably get by with 3 processors, have a little room to grow and it is cheaper than an N class box.
If you think your needs may exceed that L in a year or two, as James said look at an N. One processor has a TPM of 9,100 so two procs. would likely carry you for some time. It can grow to eight procs. with a TPM of 60,000. These are all 550MHz procs.
Position yourself to grow, not hit a dead end.
Dave
I agree with James. Before spending any money on a K box I would take a serious look at the N's and L's.
The list price on the processors for the K370 is $15,000 each. The Max RAM is 4GB, so to add another 3GB lists for $39,180. Provided you currently have four 256MB modules in your system. If not, you will have to replace them to get to 4GB.
So, you are somewhere around $70,000 list to do the upgrade. Granted nobody pays list and you can get this stuff used. I just do not think upgrading a K is worth it, especially after that discontinuance announcement.
Performance wise, a maxxed out K370 gets you 21,350 estimated TPM. A 4 processor L3000 gives you 34,500 TPM. You could probably get by with 3 processors, have a little room to grow and it is cheaper than an N class box.
If you think your needs may exceed that L in a year or two, as James said look at an N. One processor has a TPM of 9,100 so two procs. would likely carry you for some time. It can grow to eight procs. with a TPM of 60,000. These are all 550MHz procs.
Position yourself to grow, not hit a dead end.
Dave
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