Upgrade to 11i

[Amiel Tutolo]

I have done this upgrade now a few times but I am being asked by a client to provide "SOUND REASONING" for the upgrade. They don't want to hear because 11.0 is going to be desupported. I have put together a good start to a list like - More stability, industrial strength, dynamic kernel tuning. Can anyone come up with anything else? This might be a good thread down the road for anyone else thinking of upgrading. Thanks in advance.

[Geoff Wild · Accepted solution]

Here's a posting with some information for you:

http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=109233



Rgds...Geoff

[Bill Hassell]

Unsupported is a bad reason? Who will fix the problems when HP no longer supports the opsystem? Is the customer still running Windows 3.1 or DOS 2.11? (if they are, I'm surprised that they even have HP-UX). The real issues are indeed support and stability. Huge changes were made to networking for high performance. And many new products (especially freeware from the Internet Express depot) won't even install on 11.0. 11.0 was first released in Nov 1997 which is a LONG time for a major computer opsystem to exist. If something is not working in 10.20 (and a patch was not created prior to Dec 2001) then it will never work. 11.0 is heading the same way, which is no different than other opsystems and platforms.

I suppose a case could be made for a business that is completely static, no growth, no change needed or desired, always running the exact same software with the same printers, same tape backup system, etc. But any company that does not have a product life cycle plan for each technology product (hardware and software) will (and may already) struggle with something that used to work, is no longer supported, a critical business process must have it, no replacement available, no upgrade, etc.

What has made Windows NT disappear from popular servers? It used to work just fine...but requirements change and more important, today's environment cannot tolerate stability and security issues. Although many security components of 11.11 have been backported to 11.0, this will not likely continue much longer, yet security concerns will change whether we want them to or not. HP is removing web pages for 10.20 support and references will likely do so for 11.0 in the future.

[Steven E. Protter]

Sound Resoning:

Start with De-support. When you call HP and they say "good luck" that is not where you want to be.

11i is large, more reliable, more stable and faster at many things. The price is more disk space and memory use.

There are a lot of things created for 11i and not earlier releases. The strong random number genertor is one example. It speeds up the transfer of public keys enabling you to have a more secure system.

11i doesn't have the LITS patch and the potentiall to traumatically damage your system by accidental re-install.

I have found I can run an 11i server longer, even with a complex application environment than an 11.00 system without booting or other forms of manual intervention.

Hope there are a few nuggets for you to use with your client.

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