Upgrading from 10.20 to 11

[Morris Makuch]

Hello. We are planning to upgrade from 10.20 to 11 in the next few months. I am a bit confused about the different flavors of 11 and which route to go 11.x or 11i. We are basically a 8-6 M-F shop, no e-commerce or internet access and running Oracle as the only application for our internal users. We have a K370 and K360 running in a service guard environment. What is best for me, 11.x or 11i and what's the difference? Also, in 10.20 all your application software came on 4 cd's. Is that not the case any more with 11? I see all my applications coming up individually in Software Update Manager. Do I have to order each individual application individually? Thanks

[BFA6]

Can't help with the differences between 11.x and 11i, but can say that we have a set of 6 application CD's for 11

Regards,

Hilary

[S.K. Chan]

11i is the one you should go for. Comparison between 2 can be found in ..

http://devresource.hp.com/STK/hpux_faq.html

Also previous post with similar discussion (from search) ..

http://us-support.external.hp.com/emse/bin/doc.pl/sid=f8d055b805c933fee0/distrib_redir=0+1022854724|*?rn=25&searchcategory=ALL&todo=search&x=50&searchtype=SEARCH_FORUMS&y=16&searchcriteria=allwords&searchtext=11.0+vs+11i&presort=rank

Hope this helps...

[James R. Ferguson]

Hi Morris:

First, don't "upgarde"! Do a cold install. The chance of success with an upgrade is marginal, but virtually gauranteed with a cold installation. There have been a plethora of threads in this forum about this. Do a search with keywords like "10.20, 11, install".

Release 11.0 has been around a while. 11.11 is also known as "11i" and would be my choice for a transition at this point. It is more feature-rich than 11.0 and has stablized.

11.20 is for the Itanium processor line, and is also branded "11i version 1.5". Its a silly marketing gimmick.

11.11 bundles Applications differently than previously seen at 10.20 and 11.0. You can begin to understand the different packaging by looking at the documents here:

http://docs.hp.com/hpux/os/11i/index.html

Regards!

...JRF...

[Helen French]

1) I would suggest you to do a cold installation of 11i (11.11) and import all your data back.

2) There are so many threads in this forum about difference between 11.00 and 11i(like dynamic configurable kernel), do a search on that. 11i has more features than 11.00 and all your applications will work. You can load either 64bit or 32 bit version of OS.

3) For 11.00, the application CD set contains 6 CDs where as in 11i, it has 4 CDs.

4) You can order the full set from SUM. This could be a normal selection:
a) Core OS CD set
b) Application CDs
c) Support Plus CD
d) Instant information
e) Software pack core enhancement
f) Middleware server bundle

5) Once you ordered the CD set, you can install the OS and applications depends on your need. All free products will come default. If you need any application that requires a codeword, you need to purchase it from HP. All applications will be their in the application CD set.

[MANOJ SRIVASTAVA]

Hi Morris

Since you are running a m-f shop and the Hardware is also K Class on MC service gaurd , I would suggest you to go in gfor 11.00 which is much similar to 10.20 first . Ofcourse you need to do a cold install . I would also ercommend to ahve the list of softwares which are already installed and their equivalents on 11.00 .Need less to say compilers etc .


Manoj Srivastava

[Sachin Patel]

Hi Morris,

I am working on same project.
I have to convert 5 C-class and 3 K-class from 10.20 to 11.00.

I am half way. I will say go for cold install.

have a paper copy of iosacn, swlist, vgscan, fstab, kernal parameter (most necessary because you are using oracle).

If you have external disk then you don't have to worry about data loose on that disk/filesystem.
Install new os. then vgimport your external file systems.

New patchs and applications are bigger is size so be prepare for disk problem if you have less then 4 gig root disk and many application to load.

Get the codeword from hp for applications before hand.

Good Luck.
Sachin