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03-20-2009 02:44 PM
03-20-2009 02:44 PM
i have a hp-ux B.11.11 machine here where the command who -r gives an empty output, return value is zero.
the who command itself does work, the /etc/inittab and /sbin/init seem OK.
where could i start to search for the problem?
is there another way to see the current runlevel?
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03-20-2009 03:40 PM
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Re: who -r not working
Can you post the output of:
whence who
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03-20-2009 03:43 PM
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Re: who -r not working
/usr/bin/who
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Re: who -r not working
the last 100 entries '/etc/rc.log' are:
AxInitLocale: Error occurred during locale and conversion initialization.
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03-20-2009 03:55 PM
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Re: who -r not working
See these other threads about runlevel:
http://forums.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=1239710
INIT_STATE=s
http://forums.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=1238202
who -r not working in single user mode.
It also mentions the command getrunlvl.
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03-20-2009 04:17 PM
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Re: who -r not working
(note: i won't be able to reboot / change runlevels of the machine because it's a customer's server)
getrunlvl doesn't give me any output either, the machine wasn't rebooted for 200 days now and /etc/utmp isn't empty.
'strings /etc/utmp' gives me:
root@asbd4z :/root/home/root :strings /etc/utmp
root
consconsole
B<
p
B<
ts/7pts/7
ermclnt
B
pts/1
I8S5
LOGIN
pts/2
i replaced every ip with
maybe it has something to do with that storm of:
AxInitLocale: Error occurred during locale and conversion initialization.
in the /etc/rc.log? (although that file was last modified over 3 months ago)
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03-20-2009 04:41 PM
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Re: who -r not working
Since the machine is up, your runlevel is fine. Is your problem some script that insists on checking the runlevel and that's failing?
>getrunlvl doesn't give me any output either
Hmm, I forgot what that looks at. You could use tusc to check.
>the machine wasn't rebooted for 200 days now and /etc/utmp isn't empty.
It could be corrupted.
What does this show:
/usr/sbin/acct/fwtmp < /etc/utmp
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03-20-2009 05:09 PM
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Re: who -r not working
here the output of '/usr/sbin/acct/fwtmp < /etc/utmp':
root cons console 8064 7 0000 0001 1219995548 Aug 29 09:39:08 2008
ermclnt 22780 8 0000 0000 1237569841 Mar 20 18:24:01 2009
LOGIN ta pts/ta 1910 8 0000 0000 1233141984 Jan 28 12:26:24 2009
LOGIN 2 pts/2 25517 8 0000 0000 1233140892 Jan 28 12:08:12 2009
i replaced the usernames by
i've attached the output of 'tusc who -r' as well. (i've X'd out the usernames).
Thanks for the help.
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03-20-2009 06:01 PM
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Re: who -r not working
# /sbin/init.d/pwgr stop
# who -r
If you want to restart it:
# /sbin/init.d/pwgr start
You could then try the 'who -r' again and see if just stopping and restarting pwgr "fixed" the problem.
No, stopping pwgr will not prevent anyone from logging in and should not have any other adverse effects.
I never run this on any of my servers. From what I have read it is really only useful if there are a lot of users logging in and out.
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03-20-2009 06:06 PM
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Re: who -r not working
root@xxxxxx :/root/home/root :/sbin/init.d/pwgr stop
pwgrd stopped
root@xxxxxx :/root/home/root :who -r
root@xxxxxx :/root/home/root :/sbin/init.d/pwgr start
pwgrd started
root@xxxxxx :/root/home/root :who -r
root@xxxxxx :/root/home/root :
no change :(
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03-20-2009 06:18 PM
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Re: who -r not working
system boot
run-level
so if the entries would be like:
system boot
run-level 3
then getrunlvl shows:
New_level 3 Old_level S
i can't find both of these entries in /etc/utmp on the machine with issues.
it really seems that this file got messed up (or deleted some time ago).
is there a way to make this file valid again without a reboot?
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03-20-2009 06:35 PM
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Re: who -r not working
>>without a reboot?
Not that I know of.
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03-20-2009 06:40 PM
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03-20-2009 09:08 PM
03-20-2009 09:08 PM
SolutionSure, write a program.
Since you are on 11.11 you probably don't need to do that.
>Patrick: Not that I know of.
Right, there is no specific command(s) that will fix it. And even harder on 11.23 since there is utmps & utmpd.
>I guess we have to live with that until the next reboot.
(See easier way below, first.)
If you are ambitious you might try the following:
1) Back up /etc/utmp in case we make it worse.
2) You might be able to extract the info from a good system with dd(1).
3) Then use "cat >> /etc/utmp" to append to the end.
4) They try "who -r".
>if I study the tusc output and compare that to the one of another hp-ux machine it seems that 'who -r' searches for following entries in /etc/utmp:
system boot run-level
Of course. See utmp(4):
http://docs.hp.com/en/B2355-60130/utmp.4.html
Just use tusc on a good system to compute where the good record is, then use dd to extract it.
In your tusc dump on the bad system, suppose this is the entry you want to copy:
read(5, "x x x x x x x \0t s / 7 p t s / ".., 60)
Counting from 0, this is record 7:
dd if=/etc/utmp of=runlevel bs=60 iseek=7 count=1
Then just copy to the bad system and do:
cat runlevel >> /etc/utmp
Actually since it is /etc/utmp you can do:
1) On good system:
2) /usr/sbin/acct/fwtmp < /etc/utmp | grep "run-level " > runlevel
3) Copy runlevel to bad system
4) On bad system
5) /usr/sbin/acct/fwtmp < /etc/utmp > utmp.txt
6) cat runlevel >> utmp.txt
7) cp /etc/umtp utmp.save
8) /usr/sbin/acct/fwtmp -ic < utmp.txt > /etc/utmp
>I can't find both of these entries in /etc/utmp on the machine with issues.
Yes, someone emptied out /etc/utmp and lost that entry.
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03-20-2009 09:21 PM
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Re: who -r not working
i'll see what the customer says on monday and if he insist i'll try to recover the file.
thanks for the info :)
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