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10-11-2011 12:47 AM
10-11-2011 12:47 AM
Re: X-server can not be started
Those config error messages come from the "strings" command to the /etc/config file.
I tried to attached it but I couldn't (see above).
Sorry, but I don't know what is the maxdsize and how to find out its value?
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10-11-2011 01:23 AM
10-11-2011 01:23 AM
Re: X-server can not be started
>Those config error messages come from the "strings" command to the /etc/config file.
Don't do that. That gives a list of ALL possible messages, not the one you got,
>but I don't know what is the maxdsiz and how to find out its value?
/usr/sbin/kmtune -q maxdsiz # for 11.11
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10-11-2011 02:11 AM
10-11-2011 02:11 AM
Re: X-server can not be started
Oppsss, Ok.
Parameter Current Dyn Planned
===============================================
maxdsiz 3221225472 - 3221225472
What does this parameter mean?
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10-11-2011 02:12 AM
10-11-2011 02:12 AM
Re: X-server can not be started
Also in SAM - Kernel Configuration - Configurable Parameters.
Mine is set to (hex) 0xc0000000 (or 3*1024*1024*1024)
V.
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10-11-2011 02:30 AM
10-11-2011 02:30 AM
Re: X-server can not be started
>What does this parameter mean?
Your value is 3 Gb, plenty enough. Unless you have maxdsiz too large or have used ulimit to make it smaller.
/usr/sbin/kmtune -q maxssiz # for 11.11
ulimit -a
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10-11-2011 02:43 AM
10-11-2011 02:43 AM
Re: X-server can not be started
http://www.docs.hp.com/en/939/KCParms/KCparam.MaxDsiz.html
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10-11-2011 04:58 AM
10-11-2011 04:58 AM
Re: X-server can not be started
I attached the results of maxssiz and ulimit -a.
In addition the attached file shows that there are repeat messages (corn) that send to my /var/mail/root directory. It may concern to the issue.
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10-11-2011 06:01 AM
10-11-2011 06:01 AM
Re: X-server can not be started
Well, I can't imagine that this is a general kernel configuration problem ....
Please check installed graphics software
and also check for shown patches (screenshots in doc)
Do you have a support contract to get the latest patches?
V.
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10-11-2011 06:58 AM
10-11-2011 06:58 AM
Re: X-server can not be started
did you try remove gvid driver and add again as reloading ?
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10-12-2011 03:36 AM
10-12-2011 03:36 AM
Re: X-server can not be started
>I would try downloading and installing patch PHSS_36087
(It would be more helpful if you cut&pasted text files and not images. I can't cut out of images.)
You maxssiz is fine.
Your crontab mail is useless junk, it seems to be sending your blank lines, plus the cron boilerplate.
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10-17-2011 11:38 PM
10-17-2011 11:38 PM
Re: X-server can not be started
Sorry for the late reply, I was on vacation.
> Please check installed graphics software
> and also check for shown patches (screenshots in doc?
How? what command should I run?
> Do you have a support contract to get the latest patches?
No, I don't have a support contract.
Yali
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10-18-2011 12:25 AM
10-18-2011 12:25 AM
Re: X-server can not be started
>what command should I run?
The command are shown in the screenshot in the doc.
>No, I don't have a support contract.
That's not helpful - you can't patch the system ....
Well, with the commands we can see how up-to-date the system is.
Please post the results here.
V.
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10-18-2011 05:04 AM
10-18-2011 05:04 AM
Re: X-server can not be started
Vacations are always good :-)
You ask me to post the results here. Since I'm working with separated nets I guess it is fine to attach the results as screenshot.
Yali.
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10-18-2011 05:07 AM
10-18-2011 05:07 AM
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10-18-2011 07:54 AM
10-18-2011 07:54 AM
Re: X-server can not be started
Yes - all seems to be installed.
Only the Xserver patch is neither the recommended nor the most recent. (-> attachment)
But I can't say if it's relevant.
If you have a backup of the patch you could try to roll it back, maybe it helps.
Have you already tried to change kernel after a new reboot?
Have you tried to boot from previous kernel?
Once again from your first post:
>error (pid 2709): server for display "hostname":0 cannot be started
Is there the right "hostname" shown?
V.
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10-19-2011 01:22 AM
10-19-2011 01:22 AM
Re: X-server can not be started
>If you have a backup of the patch you could try to roll it back, maybe it helps.
Sorry, I don't have. But I do have similar HP-UX machines (B.11.11). Will it help for that issue?
>Have you already tried to change kernel after a new reboot?
I rebooted the system and then I tried to set the kernel parameter via SAM - unsuccessfully.
>Have you tried to boot from previous kernel?
What do you mean by "boot from previous kernel"? How can do it?
>error (pid 2709): server for display "hostname":0 cannot be started
Is there the right "hostname" shown?
> When I quoted the above message I did it as it appears. The expression "hostname" appears like that (not with the real name).
Anyway the hostname is fine (uname -a).
Yali.
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10-19-2011 04:59 AM
10-19-2011 04:59 AM
Re: X-server can not be started
Reboot the machine and interrupt the boot process
At the boot menu) type: boot pri isl
At the ISL> prompt type: hpux -is /stand/vmunix.prev
Then you should boot to init 1 (if I remember right).
Then you can change to init 2 and 3 and check for errors
(Type at prompt: init 2 - then init 3)
V.
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10-19-2011 05:04 AM - edited 10-19-2011 05:05 AM
10-19-2011 05:04 AM - edited 10-19-2011 05:05 AM
Re: X-server can not be started
Then if you try to change this kernel you should make a copy of the current kernel first:
Copy /stand/vmunix and /stand/system to ..._work.
HTH
V.
P.S. And make an ignite backup
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10-23-2011 12:34 AM
10-23-2011 12:34 AM
Re: X-server can not be started
Hi,
I followed all the steps you offered.
isl> hpux -is /stand/vmunix.prev
> init 1
# login to root
no error message
# init 2 (lots of N/A processes as usual accepted)
error message: "Value TERM has been set to "unknown"
# init 3 (who -r)
. run-level 3 Oct 23 08:10 3 0 2
no error message. I can login into a CDE as root.
# env | grep TERM
TERMINAL_EMULATOR = dtterm
TERM = dtterm
So init 3 gives the possibility to login into a CDE.
Is that OK?
What is the run level should I shift to in order to work normaly? I mean, I checked other HP-UX:
# who -r
. run-level 3 Aug 14 13:10 3 0 S
What does the "S" mean (Single user)?
Yali
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10-23-2011 04:29 PM
10-23-2011 04:29 PM
Re: X-server can not be started
>What is the run level should I shift to in order to work normally?
3 is the normal user mode runlevel.
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10-24-2011 12:50 AM
10-24-2011 12:50 AM
Re: X-server can not be started
level 3 is the normal level the ws would boot-up to, if you don't interrupt boot process.
Yes, 'S' is single-user environment - see the man-pages of 'who' and 'init'.
Ok, the old kernel would work.
What will happen if you do the same for the current kernel?
So:
isl> hpux -is /stand/vmunix
?
Also check how old the previous kernel is:
'll /stand'
Do you know any differencies between the kernels?
Else you have to compare kernel settings and patch level to find differencies.
What does 'diff /stand/system.prev /stand/system' says?
To change permanently to the previous kernel you have to copy /stand/vmunix.prev and /stand/system.prev to /stand/vmunix and /stand/system.
That's a decision you have to do - you can/should backup the current files before that.
More help needed?
V.
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10-24-2011 06:25 AM
10-24-2011 06:25 AM
Re: X-server can not be started
Hi,
Well, current kernel didn't pass your exam :) - I receive the same error messages. (I might not mentioned it but the is another error message: " Type ITE_x80y24 unkown ")
The previous kernel is old (from Feb 20 2006) and its size smaller.
I don't know what the differences between them are.
diff /stand/system.prev /stand/system gives nothing (no differences). BTW, they both have the same size.
If I can back up the files before I prefer to change to the previous kernel.
Please note, that my knowledge is limited and I should ask for assistance.
Thank you very much.
Yali.
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10-25-2011 03:42 AM
10-25-2011 03:42 AM
Re: X-server can not be started
just found this hint in a thread:
Check /etc/rc.config.d/desktop f this is set:
DESKTOP=CDE
Else:
To backup the current kernel just copy /stand/vmunix to something like /stand/vmunix.new and /stand/system to /stand/system.new.
Then copy the previous kernel to the current name.
What date has the current kernel?
V.
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10-25-2011 04:30 AM
10-25-2011 04:30 AM
Re: X-server can not be started
Hi,
DESKTOP=CDE was allready set in /etc/rc.config.d/desktop.
I backuped the current kernel as .new, then copied the .prev kernel to the current name. I rebooted the system but still, the same error message displayed...
Is there any deamon at /sbin/init.d/ that I should start?
The current kernel (the one that was copied to .new) is from Dec 17 2009.
Yali.
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10-25-2011 04:48 AM
10-25-2011 04:48 AM
Re: X-server can not be started
I thought it worked with the previous kernel?
Can you post 'll' from /stand?